onimus wrote: Trisul wrote: He ran a 9-tile generator before, Thor yellow. It generated something like 5.3 avg AP or something like that. Well there you go. On average, you get a turn 1 surgical strike. Just like I thought.
Trisul wrote: He ran a 9-tile generator before, Thor yellow. It generated something like 5.3 avg AP or something like that.
onimus wrote: Because every time he cast it, it caused at least 2 matches. usually 3 or 4.
Polares wrote: Right now, what I want is the devs acknowledging this debate, and I want them to tell us if IF is going to be nerfed or not. TELL US NOW. I don't want to spend iso or even HP into him, and then devs nerfing him into oblivion in less than a month.
Ozark Boatswain wrote: Tripwire wrote: As of now, I'm going to be dialing back my involvement with MPQ until I see how this gets resolved. Same here. It's only Deadpool Dailies for me until this gets resolved.
Tripwire wrote: As of now, I'm going to be dialing back my involvement with MPQ until I see how this gets resolved.
curlymustache wrote: u guys are funny! its not even a full week since hes ingame and yall demand the nerfbat. u should all wear these:
NorthernPolarity wrote: Yeah, let's adapt to the Ragnarok turn one wins, or the spidey infinite stunlock.
simonsez wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: Yeah, let's adapt to the Ragnarok turn one wins, or the spidey infinite stunlock. Yes, because IF is EXACTLY like this Can't anyone discuss this without propping up hyperbolic strawmen?
Sandwichboy wrote: The reason he's so powerful isn't that on his own he's broken. He's REALLY GOOD on his own, but it's because there's two characters with game ending black powers that he teams well with, and one who he was clearly designed to pair with. Paired with anyone other than BP, LC or XF, he's still really good and annoying to face, but not something I'd skip. And not everyone has these 3 guys maxed out. People need to stop forgetting that the top tier pvp meta isn't the entire game.
ark123 wrote: Sandwichboy wrote: The reason he's so powerful isn't that on his own he's broken. He's REALLY GOOD on his own, but it's because there's two characters with game ending black powers that he teams well with, and one who he was clearly designed to pair with. Paired with anyone other than BP, LC or XF, he's still really good and annoying to face, but not something I'd skip. And not everyone has these 3 guys maxed out. People need to stop forgetting that the top tier pvp meta isn't the entire game. On his own he's not broken. He's about on par with BP overall, but I'd always want him to fire off one of his powers over Rage of The Black Panther. People are running him in the new pvp and it's just not as good a team as xf gt.
Sword user wrote: ark123 wrote: Sandwichboy wrote: The reason he's so powerful isn't that on his own he's broken. He's REALLY GOOD on his own, but it's because there's two characters with game ending black powers that he teams well with, and one who he was clearly designed to pair with. Paired with anyone other than BP, LC or XF, he's still really good and annoying to face, but not something I'd skip. And not everyone has these 3 guys maxed out. People need to stop forgetting that the top tier pvp meta isn't the entire game. On his own he's not broken. He's about on par with BP overall, but I'd always want him to fire off one of his powers over Rage of The Black Panther. People are running him in the new pvp and it's just not as good a team as xf gt. My trouble is, overall, with him in the game, the power of all 3*s needs to be more. You've got some PunPun, looking for strike tiles from green? Better off having and investing in IF. Like strike tiles? Get an attack tile that absolutely can't be removed. I'm sorry, but it's 80%+ of the time that you're going to get 2 matches of black, many times a great deal more. Drain the board of purple and green, black'll get ya if he lucks into 2 matches or a 5 match (since the board will concentrate black). Collect black and risk an early purple and from there it's luck. Xor wins in PVP, so it's fine, right? How does that make any sense at all? Tinykitty, so many people on this forum write from the perspective of someone with full TGT/Xforce, it's no wonder that people try to skip the 3* stuff and go directly to the 'winning team.'
ark123 wrote: I beat a bunch of full IFs this last pvp into the ground, so I can say with some authority. IF is great for hopping with xf, and pretty much nothing else. In defense, he is a dud. Sure he will hit your support a bunch when you're matching support colors, but most of the time you're either matching green for xf or blue/red for gt, and neither of those care about the tile. He's a great 3*. But use him while you're attempting to go past 800 points in pvp and I guarantee everyone in the planet will hit you instead of any team with gt/xf. P.S.: my xf isn't viable to I had to down those maxed teams with loki/GT. Which I did. Repeatedly.
Phaserhawk wrote: The nerf probably isn't enough
raisinbman wrote: They really nerfed Iron Fist? Does that mean X-Force and other 4* are working as intended? Why is Iron Fist getting so much attention, yeesh?