locked wrote: Excuse me? Modern Thor has already been featured twice or more in heroic events, where best standalone builds for characters matter so much more, while X-Force has never been featured in a Heroic event and likely never will.
Dauthi wrote: locked wrote: Excuse me? Modern Thor has already been featured twice or more in heroic events, where best standalone builds for characters matter so much more, while X-Force has never been featured in a Heroic event and likely never will. A few heroics over the course of how long? Compared to about every other pvp where I run him with X-Force? Sorry, like jesse said, if it wasn't for X-Force I would respec. The two characters pair great and if you are only going to use CtS 1% of the time you play him, you should consider respecing to 5 red. If X-Force steals yellow, green, or black, it's game over with 3* Thor. If he steals red and you can get off 2 reds, it creates 6 yellows and 4.2k damage that can lead to another game over. It's sad when you have to model some of your characters around X-Force, but you gotta do what you gotta do to stay competitive.
dkffiv wrote: don't forget daken. Torch doesn't count 'cause he's a 3* that got turned into a 2*
dider152 wrote: dkffiv wrote: don't forget daken. Torch doesn't count 'cause he's a 3* that got turned into a 2* I wonder what the thought process was when they decided to create the 2*, essentially a downgrade. Upgrading to a gold 3*, I get. But downgrading to a 2* that's essentially a weaker copy, that is squishier?
onimus wrote: dider152 wrote: dkffiv wrote: don't forget daken. Torch doesn't count 'cause he's a 3* that got turned into a 2* I wonder what the thought process was when they decided to create the 2*, essentially a downgrade. Upgrading to a gold 3*, I get. But downgrading to a 2* that's essentially a weaker copy, that is squishier? They did it to improve the diversity in the 2 star range. This was before 2 star daken had his blue ability, so he had a level cap of level 78. This was also before Ms Marvel. So in 2 star range, there were really only 2 types of teams: OBW and Thor/Ares Magneto and Storm That was basically all you ever saw. Occasionally, you'd see a Wolverine thrown in, or maybe a Thor and Ares team. But neither of those were very common because they share the same colors and they didn't hold a candle to the above 2 teams. Characters you never ever saw: Moonstone Captain America Bullseye Bagman Daken (because like I said, he had a level cap of 78 and only the two powers) Hawkeye (this was when his tiles were placed in random locations, so he was extremely unreliable.) One glaring weakness in this set of characters was the lack of color diversity. You had your blue/purple characters in Magneto, OBW and storm. And you had your Green/Yellow/Red in Thor, Ares and Wolverine. There was no black at all. So they looked at their 3 star roster, I imagine, and just picked one with a strong black ability who was being underutilized in the 3 star range, and added him to the 2 star range. Then they added Ms Marvel, who also uses black. They also remade Hawkeye to go well with Magneto. And finally, they upgraded Daken to reflect his 3 star self, with the blue active, raising his level cap to 94. It didn't solve every problem in the 2 star range, but it at least gave some diversity and choice to the players, rather than forcing them to either go OBW/tank or Mags/Cstorm.
daibar wrote: onimus wrote: dider152 wrote: dkffiv wrote: don't forget daken. Torch doesn't count 'cause he's a 3* that got turned into a 2* I wonder what the thought process was when they decided to create the 2*, essentially a downgrade. Upgrading to a gold 3*, I get. But downgrading to a 2* that's essentially a weaker copy, that is squishier? They did it to improve the diversity in the 2 star range. This was before 2 star daken had his blue ability, so he had a level cap of level 78. This was also before Ms Marvel. So in 2 star range, there were really only 2 types of teams: OBW and Thor/Ares Magneto and Storm That was basically all you ever saw. Occasionally, you'd see a Wolverine thrown in, or maybe a Thor and Ares team. But neither of those were very common because they share the same colors and they didn't hold a candle to the above 2 teams. Characters you never ever saw: Moonstone Captain America Bullseye Bagman Daken (because like I said, he had a level cap of 78 and only the two powers) Hawkeye (this was when his tiles were placed in random locations, so he was extremely unreliable.) One glaring weakness in this set of characters was the lack of color diversity. You had your blue/purple characters in Magneto, OBW and storm. And you had your Green/Yellow/Red in Thor, Ares and Wolverine. There was no black at all. So they looked at their 3 star roster, I imagine, and just picked one with a strong black ability who was being underutilized in the 3 star range, and added him to the 2 star range. Then they added Ms Marvel, who also uses black. They also remade Hawkeye to go well with Magneto. And finally, they upgraded Daken to reflect his 3 star self, with the blue active, raising his level cap to 94. It didn't solve every problem in the 2 star range, but it at least gave some diversity and choice to the players, rather than forcing them to either go OBW/tank or Mags/Cstorm. Unfortunately it only worked at the low tier of 2*. Torch or Ms Marvel might go ok with MBW, but they just don't have the same synergy with anyone in the 2* level. I very rarely see any 2* outside of the top 7, (OBW, Ares, Thor, Mag, CStorm, Daken, Wolverine) once you get to 300.
Daige wrote: whereas whenever I get green I tend to use it only for X-force. So what do you say about that?
Moon 17 wrote: So...this guy's about to be boss again, right? Is TGT/X-Force a good argument against simply building a team around this Thor instead? I know that X-Force still has a pretty high damage output in black, but without the AP steal and the big, bad green I'm not convinced that he's a complete package. I use to use Thor/Panther a lot last year; seems like they could be poised to make a pretty effective come-back. Thoughts?