FlaDoc wrote: On offense his black is amazing, especially if teamed with Mystique or Doom. In PVP it looks to be a negative. Most of the time the computer will fire it off with only 6 black AP, but even if the computer had 30 black it can still only use a power once per turn. (IIRC) This seems to neuter both his power and any other powerful black user he is teamed with. I still love the design & will use him heavily in PVE & might use him to climb in PVP.
NorthernPolarity wrote: mageofshadow wrote: Has anyone faced a fully leveled/covered luke in pvp yet? It seems like he might be a good defensive character to keep the game going a bit longer so you defensive characters can build up the ap they need. For example with lady Thor he might increase the chances of her getting blue and red off in a match rather than just one. Of course the tile does not to much about abilities so maybe it actually all that relevant. I would also say he needs to be 5/5/3 for a defense oriented build because the AI uses jab poorly. Just curious if anyone had some experience fighting him and could weigh in on his defensive abilities. He seems fine on defense. I don't think yellow or black can be reliably cast on defense because the AI can't use black well and yellow is expensive, but his red alone makes him a reasonable deterrent since fighting him is extremely annoying. I don't think optimizing for defense is ever a good idea since your opponent has too much of an advantage on offense for it to really make too much of a difference. In the current metagame, you can only bring two guys counting the featured, so Cage has no place because XF / LadyThor is basically non-negotiable unless the featured really, really overlaps with one or the other. DIscounting XF / LadyThor, he's probably among the best defensive guys you can bring, just because of how his red is incredibly annoying at slowing down the match.
mageofshadow wrote: Has anyone faced a fully leveled/covered luke in pvp yet? It seems like he might be a good defensive character to keep the game going a bit longer so you defensive characters can build up the ap they need. For example with lady Thor he might increase the chances of her getting blue and red off in a match rather than just one. Of course the tile does not to much about abilities so maybe it actually all that relevant. I would also say he needs to be 5/5/3 for a defense oriented build because the AI uses jab poorly. Just curious if anyone had some experience fighting him and could weigh in on his defensive abilities.
ArciaWOTH wrote: I would switch the color scheme around. It looks a bit dark for a jokester hero.
Pylgrim wrote: Can we have a poll on preferred build or are we waiting for final ability descriptions at all levels? We need Ice, stat!
Trisul wrote: Pylgrim wrote: Can we have a poll on preferred build or are we waiting for final ability descriptions at all levels? We need Ice, stat! 5/3/5 for transitioners (they need the extra damage on both abilities) 5/5/3 for teaming up with 4* (XF black is better, LadyThor feeds yellow) <---- likely to be most popular build 3/5/5 for comboing with black feeders (Doom, MNstique combo)
Pylgrim wrote: It's too bad we don't have the complete skillset, but I'm wondering if 5/4/4 would be good? If the strength of the protect tile doesn't jump that much from 4 to 5 covers, I think it would be nice to get the stun on the black ability at 4 covers instead.
Phaserhawk wrote: Solid 3* go 3/5/5 (Thor, Deadpool, Daken want Cage to be 3/5/5)
ark123 wrote: Phaserhawk wrote: Solid 3* go 3/5/5 (Thor, Deadpool, Daken want Cage to be 3/5/5) Disagree. There are plenty better 3* blacks (blade, bp, hell, even mohawk) and very few better yellows (BP is about as good, Lthor is better, and that's it)
Phaserhawk wrote: ark123 wrote: Phaserhawk wrote: Solid 3* go 3/5/5 (Thor, Deadpool, Daken want Cage to be 3/5/5) Disagree. There are plenty better 3* blacks (blade, bp, hell, even mohawk) and very few better yellows (BP is about as good, Lthor is better, and that's it) If you have a BP then yes that changes things, but Blade? I agree his black is nice but Cage's hits harder and cheaper, sure you don't get the AP steal, but sometimes that's moot depending on the color. I think 5/5/3 is better overall but depending upon your 3* make up, and I chose a few of the top 3*'s most of them want Cage 3/5/5
ark123 wrote: Now it might get better if you somehow got your hands on 18 black all of the sudden.