famousfoxking wrote: I have 3/5/5, and that's served me well, but I'm really starting to think seriously about respeccing to 5/5/3 when I have the available covers. I just have a better place to send that green now *cough*xforce*cough*. LThor/Doom/Xforce is proving to be a lot of fun.
Phaserhawk wrote: Also, why are you running LThor in that.
Phaserhawk wrote: famousfoxking wrote: I have 3/5/5, and that's served me well, but I'm really starting to think seriously about respeccing to 5/5/3 when I have the available covers. I just have a better place to send that green now *cough*xforce*cough*. LThor/Doom/Xforce is proving to be a lot of fun. X-Force--Does about 4K to singe target plus cascade Call of the Storm--Does 4518 to single target and another 2259 to the rest of the team for a total of 9036 damage, that's 645 per AP vs 525 dmg per AP The only time where X-Force is better is if there is only one target left and you can down him right now, or one character can kill another of yours and X-Force can take them out before they do this, aside from that Call of the Storm is superior, sure it's slower but it takes X-Force 24 AP to do what one 14AP call of the Storm can. Also, why are you running LThor in that. You have way too many colors to prioritize, you want green/black/blue to feed black, by going after yellow as well you are slowing your team comp up.
NorthernPolarity wrote: Yeah, you're going to vastly regret this choice when LazyThor becomes featured in a heroic
NorthernPolarity wrote: When you boil down 3 vs 5 green and 3 to 5 red, 3 red - 1.3k damage 5 red - 2.1k dmg 3 green - 3k + 1.5k dmg to other 2 5 green - 4.5k + 2.5k damage. Your argument is a good post about how single target spells are generally better than aoe, but to argue that 800 damage matters on red (ehich you arent even prioritizing with an xforce composition) doesnt make a lot of sense to me. The opportunity cost of getting 800 dmg on red is 3k damage on green. Now, in a scenario where youre running 270 xf 166 lazythor, sure. You use red more than you use green because xf exists. But in any scenario where lazythor is featured, youre completely gimping green by like 4.5k damage because you wanted to have than extra 800 damage on a low priority ability. This is from the perspective of a pkayer who never uses lazythor anymore so 355 makes far more sense for featured events - if you still use him with xf then 553 is an option.
Phaserhawk wrote: The thing is X-Force makes all green and black users moot at the moment. You may as well run Hulk 3/5/5, BWGS 3/5/5, Mowhawk 3/5/5 or any other characters that share a color with X-Force. That's awesome 5/5/3 Thor works for you but the extra 800 dmg upgrade for absolutely gutting his green just doesn't seem like a good idea, not to mention you are comparing an overpowered 4* to a 3* so not sure I agree with you. In addition if you play Thor smartly you spread the damage out across the 3 enemies, then do a little math and figure out if you Lightning Strike/CtS the team where should your targets be, I have taken out more teams quicker with Thor than X-Force. But again, why are you running those two together? There are better uses of red and yellow then Thor, like Colosuss, C.Mags, or Captain America. That's why you see so much of him lately, Surgical Strike steals either Green from another X-Force or red fro 4hor, and then launches the best red in the game
JessyC01 wrote: @ Locked and Phaserhawk: About running LT and XF together, you're correct that there are better choices. But the reason why I mention them together is because I'm mainly referring to a situation where lazythor is essential - the main bulk of my playtime (re: the only time I ever pull out lazythor) happens to be in his featured PVP (and sometimes in PVE), where he has to be on your team. In that instance, I like using LT / XF / Hood. Surgical Strike will steal red, generate yellows, and once I get Thunder Strike the game will be near finished. (Then again, I suppose every PVP team is now Featured/your choice of 4*/Hood.) Also, I agree there are better uses of red (my favorite is now Deadpool's), but better uses of yellow? I still think lazythor's Thunder Strike is still amazing, since it quite reliably cascades a significant chunk of the board and gives you good openings to either make a match-5 or follow up with any green power. I think that's way better than some protection tiles. But if I had complete autonomy over my team selection (eg. the SHIELD sim) of course I wouldn't run XF and lazythor together. My A-team would be Thoress/XF/Hood. Only problem for me is I don't have a 270 Thoress yet