orbitalint wrote: Whoh, whoh, whoh, Phaser. I'm not calling her good or otherwise desireable as a character but his point was about PVP defense and she still seems pretty AI proof. If your AI team gets 7 purple AP, it spits out **** strike tiles, no biggie. If it ends up with 14, you get a strike tile advantage. Neither of them seem like "terrible on defense" conditions. She seems like a different Psylocke to me, which is what I think they were going for - a 3-4* transition character much like Psy is for 2-3*. However, they already have the top end 4* rounding out, so putting out Elektra after that makes no sense except for us FTP folk who are fine wading in the 3* pool. Whales already have the 4*'s they need but maybe we're wrong about Elektra and she'll be meta-altering, blahahaha.
Phaserhawk wrote: orbitalint wrote: Whoh, whoh, whoh, Phaser. I'm not calling her good or otherwise desireable as a character but his point was about PVP defense and she still seems pretty AI proof. If your AI team gets 7 purple AP, it spits out **** strike tiles, no biggie. If it ends up with 14, you get a strike tile advantage. Neither of them seem like "terrible on defense" conditions. She seems like a different Psylocke to me, which is what I think they were going for - a 3-4* transition character much like Psy is for 2-3*. However, they already have the top end 4* rounding out, so putting out Elektra after that makes no sense except for us FTP folk who are fine wading in the 3* pool. Whales already have the 4*'s they need but maybe we're wrong about Elektra and she'll be meta-altering, blahahaha. Lol, I was in no way trying to call you out, sorry if it came up that way, I was in more response to the red that posted as if it makes her vastly better that on first cast it gives you nothing but them tiles, why would I ever want to spend 3 turns of gathering purple to give them tiles? Given if you fully boost you could lay this out first turn, but again the odds of all those tiles surviving are small. I'm pretty much aiming for a 3/5/5 build, the promise of significant damage for attacking her and not taking damage has her becoming lethal to 395's in PvE so for me that's a for sure max, the red is pretty obvious since it's your only form of direct damage, not liking the begining of turn as it plays more like a CD tile than an attack tile, but if the damage is large no biggie. The only way I see puprle being worth it is like Phantron said the strike tile that comes back in your favor is just massive.
NorthernPolarity wrote: Build discussion is completely irrelevant at this point in time. I remember looking at LadyThor and going "wow yellow looks insane, I'm going X/5/X for sure!" only to find out that level 5 surge gives you 12 charged tiles. What if level 5 Elektra purple gives you like an 800 damage strike tile or something crazy like that?
NorthernPolarity wrote: Phaserhawk wrote: orbitalint wrote: Whoh, whoh, whoh, Phaser. I'm not calling her good or otherwise desireable as a character but his point was about PVP defense and she still seems pretty AI proof. If your AI team gets 7 purple AP, it spits out **** strike tiles, no biggie. If it ends up with 14, you get a strike tile advantage. Neither of them seem like "terrible on defense" conditions. She seems like a different Psylocke to me, which is what I think they were going for - a 3-4* transition character much like Psy is for 2-3*. However, they already have the top end 4* rounding out, so putting out Elektra after that makes no sense except for us FTP folk who are fine wading in the 3* pool. Whales already have the 4*'s they need but maybe we're wrong about Elektra and she'll be meta-altering, blahahaha. Lol, I was in no way trying to call you out, sorry if it came up that way, I was in more response to the red that posted as if it makes her vastly better that on first cast it gives you nothing but them tiles, why would I ever want to spend 3 turns of gathering purple to give them tiles? Given if you fully boost you could lay this out first turn, but again the odds of all those tiles surviving are small. I'm pretty much aiming for a 3/5/5 build, the promise of significant damage for attacking her and not taking damage has her becoming lethal to 395's in PvE so for me that's a for sure max, the red is pretty obvious since it's your only form of direct damage, not liking the begining of turn as it plays more like a CD tile than an attack tile, but if the damage is large no biggie. The only way I see puprle being worth it is like Phantron said the strike tile that comes back in your favor is just massive. Build discussion is completely irrelevant at this point in time. I remember looking at LadyThor and going "wow yellow looks insane, I'm going X/5/X for sure!" only to find out that level 5 surge gives you 12 charged tiles. What if level 5 Elektra purple gives you like an 800 damage strike tile or something crazy like that?
Phaserhawk wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: Phaserhawk wrote: orbitalint wrote: Whoh, whoh, whoh, Phaser. I'm not calling her good or otherwise desireable as a character but his point was about PVP defense and she still seems pretty AI proof. If your AI team gets 7 purple AP, it spits out **** strike tiles, no biggie. If it ends up with 14, you get a strike tile advantage. Neither of them seem like "terrible on defense" conditions. She seems like a different Psylocke to me, which is what I think they were going for - a 3-4* transition character much like Psy is for 2-3*. However, they already have the top end 4* rounding out, so putting out Elektra after that makes no sense except for us FTP folk who are fine wading in the 3* pool. Whales already have the 4*'s they need but maybe we're wrong about Elektra and she'll be meta-altering, blahahaha. Lol, I was in no way trying to call you out, sorry if it came up that way, I was in more response to the red that posted as if it makes her vastly better that on first cast it gives you nothing but them tiles, why would I ever want to spend 3 turns of gathering purple to give them tiles? Given if you fully boost you could lay this out first turn, but again the odds of all those tiles surviving are small. I'm pretty much aiming for a 3/5/5 build, the promise of significant damage for attacking her and not taking damage has her becoming lethal to 395's in PvE so for me that's a for sure max, the red is pretty obvious since it's your only form of direct damage, not liking the begining of turn as it plays more like a CD tile than an attack tile, but if the damage is large no biggie. The only way I see puprle being worth it is like Phantron said the strike tile that comes back in your favor is just massive. Build discussion is completely irrelevant at this point in time. I remember looking at LadyThor and going "wow yellow looks insane, I'm going X/5/X for sure!" only to find out that level 5 surge gives you 12 charged tiles. What if level 5 Elektra purple gives you like an 800 damage strike tile or something crazy like that? I don't know even then, I mean it's still pay 7 AP do nothing but give them tiles, then get another 7 Purple AP and hope all those tiles survived, and when 4hor came out I pretty much guessed Power Surge was going to give huge amounts of tiles I was thinking more like 9 not 12 and thought she would stun for 3 turns not 4 but the rest I was spot on. For 4 stars the rough estimate is by level 5 you seem to get a 275% increase of level 1 abilties give or take, obviously if the add an added feature on at level 5 it's harder to predict but for her purple I'm guessing she's going to steal up to 3 tiles and give them an extra 700 strength while giving the enemy 9 strike tiles not sure what final tally will be because I'm thinking as she levels their strength will go down BTW, anyone notice that DD completely counters her. I'm assuming her defense tiles won't activate if stunned, his purple can destroy any tiles she creates and because you want to be matching red after using it you have a high probability of destroying hers.
Demiurge_Miles wrote: The two effects are simultaneous. So you steal 1 and give 3 at the same time. If there's nothing to steal, you just give 3. I suppose if there were no available purple tiles, you could steal 1 and give none.
BlueRanger2012 wrote: I don't have a problem with her but why the heck is she a 4*??? If they want another female 4* then they should've given it to Jean Grey. I'm pretty sure she can kick Elektras butt.
ark123 wrote: BlueRanger2012 wrote: I don't have a problem with her but why the heck is she a 4*??? If they want another female 4* then they should've given it to Jean Grey. I'm pretty sure she can kick Elektras butt. I mean it's pretty obvious. Current prologue is Dark Avengers and they made Sentry OP. Now they're making Elektra OP, and we know they're adding Hand goons, so... Wait until we start seeing some skrulls and shi'ar goons before you hope for a Dark Phoenix Saga.
Phaserhawk wrote: ark123 wrote: BlueRanger2012 wrote: I don't have a problem with her but why the heck is she a 4*??? If they want another female 4* then they should've given it to Jean Grey. I'm pretty sure she can kick Elektras butt. I mean it's pretty obvious. Current prologue is Dark Avengers and they made Sentry OP. Now they're making Elektra OP, and we know they're adding Hand goons, so... Wait until we start seeing some skrulls and shi'ar goons before you hope for a Dark Phoenix Saga. They generally haven't made 4*'s OP with X-Force being the exception, I mean the only reason I even have problems with 4hor is that I'm trying to deal with X-Force first, if he wasn't as threatening she would not be much to deal with I mean she does nothing without blue, Nick Fury as OP'd as people claims is relatively a blanced character, sure his abilties are strong but he's going to take a bit of damgae and some time for those to resolve, Devil Dino is fair, and IW is terrible to where she balances out X-Force's awesomeness so on the whole the 4*'s are probably the most balanced and I don't see Elektra being OP
DrUnpleasant wrote: Sentry is pretty OP in the Marvel Universe though - he's significantly more powerful in the comics than nearly all of the 3* heroes and villains in the game so far. The level of his nerf makes absolutely no sense in many ways. Sentry is insanely (god killingly) strong so the fact you never see him anymore in top-tier teams is contrary to common sense. Elektra on the other hand... well, she's just a very skilled human assassin. Sentry could destroy her in the blink of an eye. I don't think she looks overpowered from what's been posted, if anything she looks a little situational - like Mr Fury.