mischiefmaker wrote: Red Panda is correct -- #1 is at the top of the chart, #48 (Yelena) is at the bottom. Apologies for the delay getting today's edition out; I had too many things going on and forgot to put the post up, but it's there now. Almost halfway done!
Pwuz_ wrote: ecir2002 wrote: Ah that would make sense. Curious who put the blonde widow first then haha. I'm not 100% sure on that reading of this chart. I'm sure we are going to see by the end, but I think that may be the #1 ranked character with a single vote for #48.
ecir2002 wrote: Ah that would make sense. Curious who put the blonde widow first then haha.
Ozark Boatswain wrote: Beast is way high on this list. I had him at #34 or so, right beside Spider-man as worst 3* character.
onimus wrote: At first glance, I was pretty surprised how high Beast's placement was too. But, to be honest, after watching the rankings unfold, I am more surprised he isn't higher. Think about it; We still have Iron Man, Psylocke, She Hulk, Spider Man and Lazy Storm that have not yet been announced. That's a lot of 3 star garbage to wade through before we get to the useful characters.
mischiefmaker wrote: 31. Daken, +1 Recommended build: 5/4/4. You want as much damage as you can get on the strike tile, so 5 purple, and it's pretty rare to have fewer than 7 blue tiles on board, so getting the extra punch on his blue at L4 is virtually free. 5/3/5 is plenty playable too, though I prefer the healing stability of L4 black, and having to make 4 strike tiles to get maximum usage out of L5 blue means you won't often be getting the full effect. 5/5/3 isn't bad either, if you're really paranoid about healing.
Pwuz_ wrote: onimus wrote: At first glance, I was pretty surprised how high Beast's placement was too. But, to be honest, after watching the rankings unfold, I am more surprised he isn't higher. Think about it; We still have Iron Man, Psylocke, She Hulk, Spider Man and Lazy Storm that have not yet been announced. That's a lot of 3 star garbage to wade through before we get to the useful characters. Psylocke? Really? I mean I know she isn't top tier, but 2/3 skills are pretty useful. She's not quite as good as Punisher, but I can't think of anyone I placed higher than Psylocke that I ranked lower than Punisher. Her Blue is circumstantial at best, but when it goes off (especially in goon fights) it often means at least one character is looking down the barrel of a lot of AP. I haven't had too many chances to use her against the goons who generate multiple AP, but the Maggia Boss ALWAYS gives me Black AP.
vudu3 wrote: mischiefmaker wrote: 31. Daken, +1 Recommended build: 5/4/4. You want as much damage as you can get on the strike tile, so 5 purple, and it's pretty rare to have fewer than 7 blue tiles on board, so getting the extra punch on his blue at L4 is virtually free. 5/3/5 is plenty playable too, though I prefer the healing stability of L4 black, and having to make 4 strike tiles to get maximum usage out of L5 blue means you won't often be getting the full effect. 5/5/3 isn't bad either, if you're really paranoid about healing. I strongly disagree with this build. The increase in strike tile strength from 3 to 5 is minimal and unlike his 3* counterpart you don't get the second one at 5 covers. I think 3/5/5 is the best build because it maximizes his regen and his kick-to-the-teeth blue.
onimus wrote: Well, when you see psylocke in pvp, does she scare you? I know she doesn't scare me. If i ever saw a team with psylocke on it, I'd attack. Unfortunately, you never see her in pvp. Because she's bad. She does very little damage, it is so single target damage, she is low health, her red and black both require build up and her blue is useless. I don't see any reason to ever use get. Ever. To me she doesn't even compare to punisher. He has a more Spammable black that hits the entire enemy team. He has a low cost heh that clears the boats and creates strike tiles to make his aoe black even stronger and he gas a cheap execute in his red. Psylocke is 3 star garbage. Maybe not as garbage as she hulk or storm or beast. But she is definitely garbage. I'm more scared of ares than I am of psylocke.
Budget Player Cadet wrote: onimus wrote: Well, when you see psylocke in pvp, does she scare you? I know she doesn't scare me. If i ever saw a team with psylocke on it, I'd attack. Unfortunately, you never see her in pvp. Because she's bad. She does very little damage, it is so single target damage, she is low health, her red and black both require build up and her blue is useless. I don't see any reason to ever use get. Ever. To me she doesn't even compare to punisher. He has a more Spammable black that hits the entire enemy team. He has a low cost heh that clears the boats and creates strike tiles to make his aoe black even stronger and he gas a cheap execute in his red. Psylocke is 3 star garbage. Maybe not as garbage as she hulk or storm or beast. But she is definitely garbage. I'm more scared of ares than I am of psylocke. You know who else doesn't scare me in PvP? Punisher. Torch. Mags. Deadpool. LCap. Quite a few 3*s, honestly. With that in mind, think of Betsy as more of a utility character. She's a quick and easy way to make strike and attack tiles (and, FWIW, I think Psi-Katana is extremely underrated). She's got decent health, her skills all hurt at least a reasonable amount, and she's consistent. She absolutely compares to punisher. Psi-Katana is a full turn faster than Molotov, and drops a very meaty attack tile right away - the cocktail needs to keep a countdown tile around to drop even one lousy attack tile. Given the prevalence of Patch and Daken, that fact alone - "cheapest, fastest strike tile in the biz" - is enough to make her worth thinking about. Betsy's red drops one 192 strike tile and does over a thousand damage; Punisher's green, for the same AP, might do a few hundred, and drops three strike tiles for a total of 312. 100 is a pretty significant difference, but keep in mind that multiple casts of Judgment stand to potentially nuke strike tiles; multiple casts of Psychic Knife just make the skill cheaper and faster. Added bonus: Psychic Knife drops strike tiles and is red. Judgment is green. Sentry lurves big strike tiles, but he needs his green to use them. Just sayin'. Betsy ain't a top tier hero, but she's not much worse than Punisher. The issue in my eyes is mainly that punisher is overrated. They're both solid characters (especially when you're transitioning to 3* land), and yeah, Punisher is better. But Betsy is definitely not garbage. She's a solid utility that teams well with a lot of characters due to her strong and cheap black and red.
AdrianoD wrote: is it safe to assume #1 sentry #2 Fat thor #3 Hood ?
mischiefmaker wrote: I don't want to give it away just yet, but if you really want to know... ...you'll find out in just 3 days!
mischiefmaker wrote: 19. Black Widow (original), -9 So what's the problem? The issue now is health. She's never been too sturdy, but the additional gap in levels brought on by the shift means that 3* teams can easily dispatch her on defense before she can get off Aggressive Recon, and on offense she doesn't last long thanks to the combination of tanking multiple colors, true healing, and increased match damage. She's still a worthwhile and useful addition to your roster, and the only 2* who holds up in the 3* range, but she's not the mainstay she used to be -- just look at how many threads there used to be about how OP she was, and how many there are now.
mischiefmaker wrote: 18. Black Widow (grey suit), +1 She's a strong character for PvE, since goons don't do any damage to her while she's building up her AP...