The Eventual *** or **** Thor Better be >>>Ragnarok

ghostlightning wrote:

I can understand Ragnarok, but Magneto isn't broken at all!

And I thought I was misguided...

The reason why Magneto isn't scary on defense is that the AI universally uses any 'select tile' ability at random, which negates the ability for Magneto to lock you down with his blue ability since it's usually pretty trivial to form a match 4 with every application of it.

You really shouldn't have a skill that generates a predictable color of AP that costs less than the AP you put in instantly. Iron Man 40's ability is okay because at least the other side can try to stop it. Yes, it's possible to not generate any green AP with Thunderclap, but the chance of that is extremely small. Thor is probably the most you can go toward generating colored APs without being totally broken. There's just no real consistency in the way these skills are balanced. For example Black Widow generates 6 green tiles for 11 purple. Let say you were able to turn these into 9 APs, then it's 11 purple for 9 green. Compared to this, it's hard to imagine using 10 red for Thunderclap without generating more than 9 green AP, not to mention Thunderclap also does damage, or that you can get your first Thunderclap the moment you matched a red while it takes 4 purple matches to use Deceptive Tactics. It's true red AP is more valuable than purple AP in general, but it's not THAT valuable.

If other 3 star characters are brought to Ragnarok's level of power then nobody would ever have a rating higher than whenever they stop generating free rating points once you get to the 3 star level, because with Ragnarok it's already pretty close to attacker always wins. If you've characters comparatively as strong that just means the attacker will always win (and in a decisive manner) and that'd make tournaments a joke because there's no way you can hold onto your rating when everyone wins all of their games decisively. Whoever has the highest rating will simply get instantly knocked down, and nobody would fear that guy since everyone always wins on attack.

Being able to win decisively is not good for competitive playing because everyone winning decisively is the same as nobody winning decisively.

Phantron wrote:

If other 3 star characters are brought to Ragnarok's level of power then nobody would ever have a rating higher than whenever they stop generating free rating points once you get to the 3 star level, because with Ragnarok it's already pretty close to attacker always wins. If you've characters comparatively as strong that just means the attacker will always win (and in a decisive manner) and that'd make tournaments a joke because there's no way you can hold onto your rating when everyone wins all of their games decisively. Whoever has the highest rating will simply get instantly knocked down, and nobody would fear that guy since everyone always wins on attack.

Being able to win decisively is not good for competitive playing because everyone winning decisively is the same as nobody winning decisively.

Your views on winning decisively are fine but Rags is not the reason for this issue and more powerful *** characters wouldn't change this for the better or worse.

How many times have you lost a battle? And from those how many times did you lose on your second try?

Toxicadam wrote:

Zathrus wrote:

Rags is hideously overpowered in Lightning Rounds, no question, but that's entirely due to the idiotic 200% boost.


I'd much rather see some of the other 3*s improved than anyone nerfed.

^^ These two points x 100

I don't think you want every 3* as strong as Ragnarok and Magneto, but I'd be in favor of toning them down a little and improving the others (excepting Spidey) as opposed to a heavy nerf. I'd like to see Doom and Loki get third skills. The two doom has are actually pretty good, if he had a direct damage ability to go with.