Tile / Power disparities

Nonce Equitaur 2
Nonce Equitaur 2 Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
edited September 2014 in MPQ General Discussion
I've been doing updates.

With most characters, the order of their abilities matches up with their strongest/stronger/strong tile damages. Unfortunately, R59 and R60 has introduced a lot of sloppiness into this. The change to BWGS still hasn't been officially mentioned.

Beast, BWGS, Captain Marvel, Daken, Deadpool, Doctor Doom, Loki, Magneto, Spiderman, and Hawkeye all have tile / power disparities now.

Tile Dam .. Ability colors
bluetile.pngyellowtile.pnggreentile.png -- bluetile.pnggreentile.pngyellowtile.png - Beast (Modern)
purpletile.pnggreentile.pngredtile.png -- greentile.pngredtile.pngpurpletile.png - Black Widow (Grey Suit)
redtile.pngyellowtile.pngblacktile.png -- redtile.pngblacktile.pngyellowtile.png - Captain Marvel (Modern)
blacktile.pngpurpletile.pngbluetile.png -- purpletile.pngblacktile.pngbluetile.png - Daken (both versions)
purpletile.pngblacktile.pngredtile.png -- redtile.pngpurpletile.pngblacktile.png - Deadpool (It's Me, Deadpool)
bluetile.pngblacktile.pngpurpletile.png -- blacktile.pngbluetile.pngnone.png - Doctor Doom (Classic)
purpletile.pngbluetile.pnggreentile.png -- bluetile.pngpurpletile.pngnone.png - Loki (Dark Reign)
bluetile.pngredtile.pngyellowtile.png -- yellowtile.pngredtile.pngbluetile.png - Magneto (Classic)
yellowtile.pngpurpletile.pngbluetile.png -- yellowtile.pngbluetile.pngpurpletile.png - Spider-Man (Classic)
purpletile.pngbluetile.pngredtile.png -- bluetile.pngredtile.pngpurpletile.png - Hawkeye (Modern)
redtile.pngyellowtile.pngbluetile.png -- redtile.pngbluetile.pngyellowtile.png - Iron Man

The Devs should either sort the powers to match the tile rankings, or set the tile damages to match the power orderings. Several characters have powers based on "opponents strongest power", but it's based on tile damages, and it's only mentioned in the forum. Resorting / Cleaning this up would simplify things.

Here are the 3* and 2* as best as I know. I don't know Daken 2*'s max hit points yet. If you see any errors I've made, let me know, and I will fix them promptly.

Max Tile Damage .... Crit .... Power cost ....... Max HP .. Namelink to stats (link to discussion)
82/11/73/09/64/09/3.0 - 14/__/13/__/_9/__ - 8220 - [goto=invisible4]Invisible Woman[/goto] (Classic)
82/10/73/64/11/09/3.5 - 12/__/10/12/__/__ - 9590 - [goto=nickfury4]Nick Fury[/goto] (Director of SHIELD)
64/09/11/10/82/73/4.0 - _9/__/__/__/_8/11 -10960- [goto=wolverine4]Wolverine[/goto] (X-Force)

70/13/79/12/61/11/3.5 - 11/__/_8/__/_9/__ - 6800 - [goto=beast3]Beast[/goto] (Modern) -- tile/power
79/13/70/12/11/61/3.5 - _9/__/_8/__/__/12 - 8500 - [goto=blackpanther3]Black Panther[/goto] (Man Without Fear)
11/61/12/79/70/13/4.0 - __/14/__/11/19/__ - 5950 - [goto=blackwidow3]Black Widow[/goto] (Grey Suit) -- tile/power
79/70/61/11/12/13/3.0 - 19/11/12/__/__/__ - 8500 - [goto=captainamerica3]Captain America[/goto] (Steve Rogers)
70/79/12/11/13/61/4.5 - PA/_7/__/__/__/_9 - 8500 - [goto=captainmarvel3]Captain Marvel[/goto] (Modern) -- tile/power
11/12/61/70/13/79/4.0 - __/__/_5/PA/__/PA - 6800 - [goto=daken3]Daken[/goto] (Classic) -- tile/power
11/61/70/79/12/13/3.5 - __/_7/_7/11/__/__ - 6800 - [goto=daredevil3]Daredevil[/goto] (Classic)
13/61/11/79/12/70/4.5 - __/_6/__/14/__/PA - 6800 - [goto=deadpool3]Deadpool[/goto] (It's Me, Deadpool) -- tile/power
10/11/69/54/12/61/3.0 - __/__/_9/__/__/12 - 7176 - [goto=doctordoom3]Doctor Doom[/goto] (Classic) -- tile/power
79/13/70/61/12/11/3.0 - PA/__/PA/12/__/__ - 5950 - [goto=falcon3]Falcon[/goto] (Mighty Avengers)
13/79/12/11/61/70/3.0 - __/_8/__/__/_5/10 - 5950 - [goto=humantorch3]Human Torch[/goto] (Classic)
70/79/61/13/12/11/3.5 - 14/13/20/__/__/__ - 8500 - [goto=ironman3]Iron Man[/goto] (Model 40)
11/10/12/69/54/61/3.0 - __/__/__/_5/__/11 - 5023 - [goto=loki3]Loki[/goto] (Dark Reign) -- tile/power
61/70/79/11/12/13/3.2 - _9/_8/10/__/__/__ - 6800 - [goto=magneto3]Magneto[/goto] (Classic) -- tile/power
11/79/70/13/12/61/3.8 - __/_8/10/__/__/_6 - 6800 - [goto=psylocke3]Psylocke[/goto] (Classic)
11/61/11/12/61/12/3.0 - __/_6/__/__/_6/__ - 8611 - [goto=ragnarok3]Ragnarok[/goto] (Dark Avengers)
61/79/13/11/70/12/3.0 - _8/11/__/__/_7/__ -10200- [goto=sentry3]Sentry[/goto] (Dark Avengers)
13/70/79/12/61/11/3.0 - __/_9/_9/__/12/__ -10200- [goto=shehulk3]She-Hulk[/goto] (Modern)
79/13/61/70/12/11/3.0 - 12/__/_5/PA/__/__ - 6800 - [goto=spiderman3]Spider-Man[/goto] (Classic) -- tile/power
70/12/11/13/79/61/3.5 - _9/__/__/__/10/_9 - 5100 - [goto=storm3]Storm[/goto] (Mohawk)
79/13/70/12/11/61/4.5 - 15/__/PA/__/__/_9 - 5100 - [goto=thehood3]The Hood[/goto] (Classic)
12/70/13/11/79/61/3.0 - __/14/__/__/10/PA -11475- [goto=thehulk3]The Hulk[/goto] (Indestructible)
11/61/12/13/70/79/4.0 - __/_8/__/__/_8/_7 - 6800 - [goto=thepunisher3]The Punisher[/goto] (Dark Reign)
70/79/12/11/61/13/3.5 - 12/_8/__/__/14/__ -10200- [goto=thor3]Thor[/goto] (Modern)
61/70/13/12/79/11/4.0 - PA/14/__/__/_9/__ - 6800 - [goto=wolverine3]Wolverine[/goto] (Patch)

43/49/09/11/55/10/3.0 - 10/10/__/__/_5/__ - 5880 - [goto=ares2]Ares[/goto] (Dark Avengers)
10/11/49/55/09/43/4.0 - __/__/_9/_8/__/PA - 3430 - [goto=blackwidow2]Black Widow[/goto] (Original)
09/09/09/46/36/41/4.5 - __/__/__/PA/__/16 - 2460 - [goto=bullseye2]Bullseye[/goto] (Dark Avengers)
55/49/43/09/10/11/3.0 - 19/11/12/__/__/__ - 4900 - [goto=captainamerica2]Captain America[/goto] (Modern)
09/10/43/49/11/55/4.0 - __/__/_5/PA/__/PA - 3920 - [goto=daken2]Daken[/goto] (Dark Avengers) -- tile/power
11/43/49/55/09/10/4.5 - __/_9/_9/PA/__/__ - 3430 - [goto=hawkeye2]Hawkeye[/goto] (Modern) -- tile/power
11/55/11/10/43/49/3.0 - __/_8/__/__/_5/10 - 3430 - [goto=humantorch2]Human Torch[/goto] (Johnny Storm)
11/43/55/49/09/10/3.2 - __/14/13/_9/__/__ - 3920 - [goto=magneto2]Magneto[/goto] (Marvel NOW!)
09/49/11/55/10/43/3.0 - __/11/__/_5/__/17 - 4900 - [goto=moonstone2]Moonstone[/goto] (Dark Avengers)
43/11/49/55/10/09/3.0 - _7/__/_9/13/__/__ - 3920 - [goto=spiderman2]Spider-Man[/goto] (Bag-Man)
43/11/49/09/55/10/3.5 - PA/__/11/__/12/__ - 2940 - [goto=storm2]Storm[/goto] (Classic)
49/55/10/09/43/11/3.5 - 12/_8/__/__/14/__ - 5880 - [goto=thor2]Thor[/goto] (Marvel NOW!)
43/49/09/11/55/10/4.0 - PA/12/__/__/_6/__ - 3920 - [goto=wolverine2]Wolverine[/goto] (Astonishing X-Men)

Comments

  • 2* Daken is same health class as Wolverine, so he should have 3920 when maxed.
  • Nonce Equitaur 2
    Nonce Equitaur 2 Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
    Added a tile damage / power ranking chart to the original post to explain it better.
  • Usually the heroes that break the power order = tile strength order are the older heroes, but recently we've had a string of heroes that broke this rule released in succession. I'm not sure why this is the case. There's only 1/6 chance that power order would match tile strength order so the fact that at least half of them have this precise ordering isn't an accident. It's not a huge gameplay issue but like mentioned 'opponent's strongest color' seems to be showing up quite a bit now and it's a lot more convenient to just look at the top skill of the middle guy or the highest level guy instead of check all their tile strengths.