Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote: She got changed back. Apparently the nerf was actually a bug.
Teke184 wrote: I think it says a lot about how D3 has handled things lately that we'd all jump to the conclusion that it was an intentional nerf.
Ben Grimm wrote: Teke184 wrote: I think it says a lot about how D3 has handled things lately that we'd all jump to the conclusion that it was an intentional nerf. I don't know how it could happen on accident.
Ben Grimm wrote: My suspicion is either this is a planned nerf that got pushed out early on accident, or it was put out on purpose, the complaints made them realize that people criticizing them for unannounced nerfs had a really valid point, and they decided to roll it back, announce it, then do it for real. In any case, I think within two weeks it's going to be back to 9 ap, this time permanently.
Katai wrote: Yeah, but compared to basically anyone, 3* Storm is complete trash. Seriously, I'd rather have a Bullseye or Iron Man 35 over 3* storm on my team.
yogi_ wrote: Ben Grimm wrote: My suspicion is either this is a planned nerf that got pushed out early on accident, or it was put out on purpose, the complaints made them realize that people criticizing them for unannounced nerfs had a really valid point, and they decided to roll it back, announce it, then do it for real. In any case, I think within two weeks it's going to be back to 9 ap, this time permanently. In summary, yes - http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=10234&start=80 (and scroll down). The question now becomes, with Red at 9AP (and a slight increase in point attack value from memory) is 5/5/3 still the default recommendation?
wymtime wrote: Katai wrote: Yeah, but compared to basically anyone, 3* Storm is complete trash. Seriously, I'd rather have a Bullseye or Iron Man 35 over 3* storm on my team. 3* storm is not trash she will just need to be partnerd with the right characters. She will fit well with Black Panther where she can destroy the env tiles to let BP set out 3-4 strike tiles and then you can either use BP black for huge damage or Storms black. I actually think Storms black is really strong as a 3** character she can do more damage than punisher's black and block a lot of the board from other characters. Is she a pilar of someones roster, no. But she can do a lot of damage when she gets her black out with strike tiles. This PVE with 1* storm has reminded me of this. I have Punisher with 5 black and I would rather use 1* storm's black with stike tiles that Punishers black.
Spoit wrote: wymtime wrote: Katai wrote: Yeah, but compared to basically anyone, 3* Storm is complete trash. Seriously, I'd rather have a Bullseye or Iron Man 35 over 3* storm on my team. 3* storm is not trash she will just need to be partnerd with the right characters. She will fit well with Black Panther where she can destroy the env tiles to let BP set out 3-4 strike tiles and then you can either use BP black for huge damage or Storms black. I actually think Storms black is really strong as a 3** character she can do more damage than punisher's black and block a lot of the board from other characters. Is she a pilar of someones roster, no. But she can do a lot of damage when she gets her black out with strike tiles. This PVE with 1* storm has reminded me of this. I have Punisher with 5 black and I would rather use 1* storm's black with stike tiles that Punishers black. Her black is the only real reason to use her. But if you're running with BP, you're not using it, so...it's pretty meh, especially since he also only has 1 good power. The reason punisher is good is not because of his individual powers, but the fact that he has all 3 that are decent, unlike most heroes
wymtime wrote: Spoit wrote: wymtime wrote: Katai wrote: Yeah, but compared to basically anyone, 3* Storm is complete trash. Seriously, I'd rather have a Bullseye or Iron Man 35 over 3* storm on my team. 3* storm is not trash she will just need to be partnerd with the right characters. She will fit well with Black Panther where she can destroy the env tiles to let BP set out 3-4 strike tiles and then you can either use BP black for huge damage or Storms black. I actually think Storms black is really strong as a 3** character she can do more damage than punisher's black and block a lot of the board from other characters. Is she a pilar of someones roster, no. But she can do a lot of damage when she gets her black out with strike tiles. This PVE with 1* storm has reminded me of this. I have Punisher with 5 black and I would rather use 1* storm's black with stike tiles that Punishers black. Her black is the only real reason to use her. But if you're running with BP, you're not using it, so...it's pretty meh, especially since he also only has 1 good power. The reason punisher is good is not because of his individual powers, but the fact that he has all 3 that are decent, unlike most heroes I think you are missing the point I am trying to make. Storm is not going to be your main go to character. Her red is a good strength and does decent damage. Her black is now her best ability with ongoing damage, and her green is probably her weekest ability but it generates AP and board shake up. With her black only costing 9 HP she can significantly speed up matches. Is she for everyone, no. Is she broken and not worth putting ISO into, I would say no. She is a solid support character and that is a good thing.
OnesOwnGrief wrote: This only really kills her synergy with EAP. Since EAP is pretty much out on every stage, she will not generate AP for Team-Up instead. All this really means is no more desert, no forest, no more danger room. All the areas are now the same, exactly the same. Just different backdrops. This will opening up the option to add more background art for new areas since they no longer have to figure out what EAP ability to give it. I'm all for this change as it gives every team a level playing field now.