RageFace wrote: I'm glad this ranking ce out when it did. The game changed drastically with the healing nerf and it's a nice in the good ole days list. I don't think the top of the list will change that much but everyone has to rethink the game now, and maybe the next list will be pretty different.
Isay_Isay wrote: My take on the Psylocke vs. Punisher The benefit Punisher has black to black is it does damage to all opponents versus one for Psylocke, but as the match goes on things swing heavily to Psylocke.
mischiefmaker wrote: - his green generates more strike tiles, but her red does more direct damage, and gets cheaper with more tiles on board. Only having one tile is a major downside, but multiple casts of his green have less marginal benefit than multiple casts of her red. Advantage: Punisher, but it's closer than people think. - her black does more damage to a single target up front, guarantees attack tile damage immediately, and is quicker to get off. Advantage: Psylocke, and it's not as close as people think. - his red is mediocre; in the current PvE format, you'll rarely need to use the auto-kill option, which makes it a run-of-the-mill direct damage power. Her blue is more or less terrible -- you can build a team around it to make it marginally playable, and every once in a while you'll get something good out of it (like 12 black AP), but it's not something you want to rely on. Advantage: Punisher. Looking at just the powers, it's clear Punisher comes out ahead, but not by much. The kicker is, Psylocke plays significantly better with most of the top characters, because she doesn't compete for green, and as such makes a much better sidekick for a top-tier team.
Isay_Isay wrote: Prognostications- Mohawk – somewhere in the 16-20 range since her red took a hit over her 1* counterpart Nick Fury – 11 or 12, incredibly strong but the likelihood of seeing (let alone using) a maxed Fury is remote She Hulk – Low 20s, mass of HP, but (maybe) one useful ability. True Healing – Spiderman drops even further, Hood finally overtakes OBW
Zhirrzh wrote: I'd say Mohawk is down with She Hulk, but who really knows? Unlike characters like Sentry and TurDaken, it seems few people have cared that much about paying out to max Mohawk. I haven't seen a high level Mohawk in PVP at all yet (whereas I swear I was fighting maxed 141 TurDaken's within a day or so of the first TurDaken covers being handed out). That alone suggests to me they are both low 20s characters. Nick Fury would be incredibly hard to judge. Quietly I suspect a maxed Nick Fury is the best character in the game even before we know what his yellow does exactly- huge damage, huge HP, a terrific colour combination that covers off the lesser used colours. But literally nobody can have a maxed Nick Fury yet to actually play with him.
mischiefmaker wrote: Magneto: outstanding with Punisher. Less good with Psylocke since you need a lot more red. Thor/Patch/Sentry: not good with Punisher as all compete for green. Less of a problem with Psylocke's red though there is some issue with Psylocke taking a color tile from Patch, weakening TBTI. Daken: Great with both, maybe a bit better with Punisher since you get more strike tiles on the Molotov area damage. BP, Hulk: no meaningful interactions I can think of. OBW, Hood: about even. Psylocke's slightly cheaper costs plays a tiny bit better with AP steal; Punisher's better strike tiles play better with Espionage. Cap: not good with Psylocke as both compete for red. Fine with Punisher. Human Torch: competes for green and red with both
gamar wrote: Isay_Isay wrote: Prognostications- Mohawk – somewhere in the 16-20 range since her red took a hit over her 1* counterpart Nick Fury – 11 or 12, incredibly strong but the likelihood of seeing (let alone using) a maxed Fury is remote She Hulk – Low 20s, mass of HP, but (maybe) one useful ability. True Healing – Spiderman drops even further, Hood finally overtakes OBW I think She-hulk is almost directly comparable to GSBW, who is at 16th GSBW - for 19 AP destroy 33 tiles, do 3912 damage to team She-hulk - for 18 AP destroy 32 tiles, do 3288 damage to team Advantage GSBW - -many abilities generate green, none generate red -Tactics is way better than settlement -slightly more powerful nuke Advantage She-hulk - -not awful on defense -nuke is "split" into two uses which is significantly good -doesn't fight for green with all the good green chars
Isay_Isay wrote: Nick Fury – 11 or 12, incredibly strong but the likelihood of seeing (let alone using) a maxed Fury is remote
Budget Player Cadet wrote: Isay_Isay wrote: Nick Fury – 11 or 12, incredibly strong but the likelihood of seeing (let alone using) a maxed Fury is remote Umm... No. We already have a lot of people sitting at 0/5/5. When that third cover drops, you're going to start seeing a lot more Fury in PvP, and you're going to see those who have him win an awful lot more.