ronin-san wrote: Piss off with the "OBW is overpowered" nonsense. She's situationally brilliant. She's easily neutralized, and has no big attacks. She is a good chiseler. She can be almost be taken down with one wolverine red attack. That means, you attack her first to whittle her down and throw big damage at her. In any fight, there's one character you need to kill of first. M Storm. Punisher. Thor before he damages all w/ that Call the Storm. GSBW before she gets 19 green. etc... But to say that a 2 star is so OP, especially when she's so easily defeated? Nonsense.
nicobile wrote: Original Black Widow is OP, she should be a 3* character.
locked wrote: I run a 3/5/5 oBW and keep getting purple covers that I eventually discard. I just don't know what I could possibly give up to have 5 in purple, I don't want to sacrifice neither 5 blue nor 5 black, especially not black as I want to get some mileage out of Patch + oBW first. 3 purple is usually enough to tinykitty the opponent anyway (definitely enough to tinykitty their oBW). I don't see in what way 5 AR is superior - it does steal more, it does steal purple, but it costs more (one match away), so it's kinda even in my eyes. For me, a 5-5-3 mStorm is galaxies away from a 5-4-4 mStorm who only needs one red AP more for Mistress.
BearVenger wrote: Facing Hood, on the other hand, is like skateboarding uphill in a mudslide.
Spoit wrote: Really, it only takes her getting 2 purple matches to be a threat, which you can't always prevent before killing her, even without a cascade
DrUnpleasant wrote: *Goes into Krakadoom tournament* *All three nodes are Rag, OBW, Thor* *chuckles* Healing in this type of game is a flawed mechanic unless made more widely available. Look at pretty much every 'party based' game made since 1983 and you'll see a mix of tank / damage dealer /healer achetypes used extensively. There's a reason for that, and if this game insists on using a healing mechanic then people will continue to make use of it to sustain their ability to play continuously.
Nellobee wrote: I seriously just signed up for a forum account to complain that OBW is ****. I'm at the 2* level, and I can win against almost everyone else at that level consistently. Against OBW I'm maybe at a 40% win rate. And that's if I focus-fire her, try to deny her both blue and purple, etc. Obviously, I don't have her covers or I'd use her, but this is ridiculous. I feel like I'm massively underpowered in comparison to any other 3x85 team that has her.
locked wrote: Firstly, if you cannot shut down oBW without your own oBW, you probably need to choose your characters more wisely (Ares is great at downing oBW from what I hear, cStorm/MMN utilize blue and purple and can stun>kill oBW), secondly, you will eventually get her too, as 2* covers drop like rain now. Yes, oBW demands being focused early, but there are other similar characters (both Storms, the Hood).
Nellobee wrote: I do not have Ares yet, but I am running MNMag/CStorm. Frequently before I can get the blue required for the stun, I get AggRecon'd. And I have been stuck at three 85's for several months now.
Spoit wrote: Doubly so for GSBW, who I don't think ANYONE thinks is a legitimate threat
pasa_ wrote: Nellobee wrote: I do not have Ares yet, but I am running MNMag/CStorm. Frequently before I can get the blue required for the stun, I get AggRecon'd. And I have been stuck at three 85's for several months now. For the record that is a pretty lame ** team, possibly responsible for your lack of progress. Since we have desert I'd bet even mStorm would get you more and faster victories, even with * company. Thor, Ares, OBW, Astonishing are all better both offense and defense.