entropic01 wrote: Microtom wrote: entropic01 wrote: I went from 0-1100 while hitting multiple maxed HTs and not even losing a single character the whole way w/o a healer. I hope people start leveling HTs so I can smack them around all day every day. Is there any character that you lose to, tho? Regularly? No, but there are characters you lose to on occasion due to nasty cascades like OBW or LT. Yes, I am saying I'd rather hit a 141 Torch than a 85 Widow
Microtom wrote: entropic01 wrote: I went from 0-1100 while hitting multiple maxed HTs and not even losing a single character the whole way w/o a healer. I hope people start leveling HTs so I can smack them around all day every day. Is there any character that you lose to, tho?
entropic01 wrote: I went from 0-1100 while hitting multiple maxed HTs and not even losing a single character the whole way w/o a healer. I hope people start leveling HTs so I can smack them around all day every day.
Rorex wrote: First saying that you would rather face Torch than OBW isn't saying much. Isn't OBW the most OP 2* in the game? Hell there are like 20 threads about how OP she is. So the fact that she is better on defense is a mute point. And really LT, your going to comare him to LT? Thats only the most OP character in the game. So yes HT is not OP. Personally I take comfort in that, LT is Ragnarok waiting to happen. Second there are plently of commonly used characters that are horrible on defense. cMag, Cap, etc. Just becasue the AI sucks doesn't mean the character does. Third team composition is key. Not only who you are using but who the opponent was using too. For example if your using two tanks with good coverage (ie LT and Hulk) and Torch in the Hotshot tourney then no big suprise that you didn't lose a guy because they have rediculous hit points. Or for that matter if your using the cMags or Spidey to ensure the enemy team doesn't get turns, again its not saying much. I too steam rolled in the Hotshot tourney finishing 1st with over 1200 points and winning at least 25% of retaliations. I ran Patch, Hood and HT. Thats a hard team to steam roll with out taking damage. Its all about stategy and lets be honest at least 70% of players don't even think about how their team will perform on Defense.
entropic01 wrote: 1) You don’t think there is something underwhelming about a character on defense when a 212 buffed HT is less intimidating than a 2*? Your argument doesn’t keep up because I’d rather hit OBW over a lot of 3*s like BP, Hulk, & Hood. Now please don’t tell me you think Hulk is OP too. 2) I said that HT sucked on defense so I hope people level him so I can hit them. In fact my exact quote was “HT is just a ridiculous liability on defense”. I think you’ll have an awfully hard time making an argument that shows that HT is good on D with his low HP, poor use of his green, and an AI that doesn’t take into account whether or not it’s smart to AP drain using black. 3) I don’t even know what you are trying to argue here. I get it, you like HT. (Hell more than a third of your posts are in this HT thread) I don’t think he’s great. Agree to disagree.
Rorex wrote: I think you missed the entire point of my post.
mags1587 wrote: His black always puts the attack tiles in the same place. So if you try to use black twice without moving any tiles around, there won't be any free basic tiles to place the new attack tiles.
Rorex wrote: Also the fact that you burned through the Hotshot tourney using a HT/Patch/cMags combo really isn't an accurate measure of anything considering how broken the cMags/Patch strategy is anyways. Eventually your strategy is going to get nerfed. This also explains why you think Hulk is so great on defense as Hulk is probably the best counter to cMags/Patch being as anger will destroy strike tiles.
pasa_ wrote: mags1587 wrote: His black always puts the attack tiles in the same place. So if you try to use black twice without moving any tiles around, there won't be any free basic tiles to place the new attack tiles. Yep, he places them on circle so you mus look out if those spaces are available. I like it pretty much -- even considering good chance to place 2 less and lose another 2 in short time. The ability is expensive but I have all the control. In Hunt Torch performed pretty well, even if left on his own. His HP is really a shame -- the overall set doesn't look OP at all, he should have the basic health like Punisher. Or as we said elsewhere use different colors, like replace green with yellow.
pasa_ wrote: Rorex wrote: Also the fact that you burned through the Hotshot tourney using a HT/Patch/cMags combo really isn't an accurate measure of anything considering how broken the cMags/Patch strategy is anyways. Eventually your strategy is going to get nerfed. This also explains why you think Hulk is so great on defense as Hulk is probably the best counter to cMags/Patch being as anger will destroy strike tiles. Not really -- early game you use hulk to feed green for you, later game you 1-shot his remaining health. And have the alternative to just overwrite the anger tile using Mags.