New Character - Toad (Mortimer Toynbee) 4*
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@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@ViralCore said:
I agree that they should take chances and be quick about rebalancing. My problem is that they pick and chose. 1-character-infinites should not exist.Toad’s rebalance is noticeably different and that’s a good thing. Unfortunately they refuse to do the same about Hawkeye. His purple cost should be bumped up and the amount of free ap should be reduced. It’s basically the same rebalance as toad.
You really gotta let the HE thing go, he's fine. At max level he has less than 100k health, he's fairly easily managed. And if there weren't supports that gave 6-12 AP to start he would barely be in any conversations.
Exactly!
Who cares if some brand new 3* player can stomp your lvl672 team over and over again for 75 points a hit? You can "easily manage" to hit those retaliations for 5 points each!
Yeah yeah yeah, we get it. Nerf everyone into oblivion, let chaos reign, antagonize people on the boards by taking things purposefully (hopefully) out of context. We get the schtick by now.
Explain how I took what you said out of context.
You are purposely disregarding and minimizing others' playstyle when you make comments like the one you made. If you don't want to play PvP competitively, good for you. Other players do and "stop complaining, he's easy to beat, who cares" is not a productive comment and does not address their concerns.
First, twisting "easily manage" to be in regards to the retaliation in a sarcastic fashion, an EB specialty!
Second, increasingly few of your comments are productive. The only thing you do is shut down concerns that don't revolve around "nerf everything so matches can go 10 minutes and no one invests in anything"
Third, what's not productive is the person who made a thread dedicated to nerfing HE shoehorning his complaint into a post about Toad, on the Toad page. He'll say it to anyone and everyone because the AI beat him one too many times with a HE he left out.
Fourth, the concerns were addressed in my post. As I said, if there weren't supports granting AP and letting players or AI fire powers immediately in PVP, HE would be a non-issue. The issue isn't HE, it's supports. But that doesn't fit your "ruin all the characters" gimmick.
That player is a 13-year vet, like me, with a million 550s, like me, who's a competitive player, like I am. Both of us have done more (and spent more) to support this game than you have, or ever will. Reducing his nuanced, informed argument to "he wiped to Hawkeye a few times" is exactly what you're accusing me of doing.
I don't care what you think of me or my comments. Toad got nerfed, and it's great. I "invested" in the cover pack for him (did you???) and I'm happy that I can use him to play MPQ now, instead of using him as an "I win" button to cheese fights.
Ah there's the classic condescension 😂 "I've played blah blah blah with a blah roster and have spent blah and no one will ever be me because my farts smell the best no one loves them like I do". For being so "competitive" you'd think you'd spend more time playing the game than being a petulant child and alienating everyone you come across.
You sure you don't go by Daiches on Reddit? Because you both seem to go out of your way to dissuade anyone from enjoying the game (or even playing it at all) any other way than how you deem to be the correct way with the level of snide nonsense you spew hourly.
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@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@LavaManLee said:
@entrailbucket said:
@LavaManLee said:
@entrailbucket said:
Uh, did they nerf him again?Edit: they did. He creates 2 charged tiles at most now. I'd have done it a different way...this feels pretty weak, but oh well. I did the whole PvP with him like this and he was still ok.
Yep. Looks like another stealth nerf.
Here's a thought: how about actually test the characters before throwing them out? I mean, shouldn't that be possible? And, if not, why not?
I'm always willing to cut them some slack on balance testing, because they don't play like we do. Plus IP2 are still really new to this.
All that said, I have no idea how Toad made it out in that state. That was egregious.
Hey, at least he got fixed pretty quick?
Totally get what you say about them not playing like we do. However, this has been going on for, what? 12 years? How about getting someone who plays like we do to actually test things before putting them in the wild?
I know, it's just a mobile game. But I guess it's a bit frustrating to continually have things like this happen. None of the teams play the way we do yet nobody else tries to play test it the way we can and figure out if something is in balance or not.
Yeah, so the problem there is that half this board thinks Toad was perfectly fine, because they just want to stomp everything in 2 seconds without thinking about it. Other communities are even worse.
Do you really want the guy who wants MPQ to just be an "I win" button helping them to design characters? How can they trust any of us to actually help them? Why should they?
Oh no, people are having fun with a new character and finding synergies, nerf them!
They already did it, and it's great!
At least they did it quickly instead of waiting for everyone to work for months on him! Maybe next time they could even test the character first, or proofread!
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@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@ViralCore said:
I agree that they should take chances and be quick about rebalancing. My problem is that they pick and chose. 1-character-infinites should not exist.Toad’s rebalance is noticeably different and that’s a good thing. Unfortunately they refuse to do the same about Hawkeye. His purple cost should be bumped up and the amount of free ap should be reduced. It’s basically the same rebalance as toad.
You really gotta let the HE thing go, he's fine. At max level he has less than 100k health, he's fairly easily managed. And if there weren't supports that gave 6-12 AP to start he would barely be in any conversations.
Exactly!
Who cares if some brand new 3* player can stomp your lvl672 team over and over again for 75 points a hit? You can "easily manage" to hit those retaliations for 5 points each!
Yeah yeah yeah, we get it. Nerf everyone into oblivion, let chaos reign, antagonize people on the boards by taking things purposefully (hopefully) out of context. We get the schtick by now.
Explain how I took what you said out of context.
You are purposely disregarding and minimizing others' playstyle when you make comments like the one you made. If you don't want to play PvP competitively, good for you. Other players do and "stop complaining, he's easy to beat, who cares" is not a productive comment and does not address their concerns.
First, twisting "easily manage" to be in regards to the retaliation in a sarcastic fashion, an EB specialty!
Second, increasingly few of your comments are productive. The only thing you do is shut down concerns that don't revolve around "nerf everything so matches can go 10 minutes and no one invests in anything"
Third, what's not productive is the person who made a thread dedicated to nerfing HE shoehorning his complaint into a post about Toad, on the Toad page. He'll say it to anyone and everyone because the AI beat him one too many times with a HE he left out.
Fourth, the concerns were addressed in my post. As I said, if there weren't supports granting AP and letting players or AI fire powers immediately in PVP, HE would be a non-issue. The issue isn't HE, it's supports. But that doesn't fit your "ruin all the characters" gimmick.
That player is a 13-year vet, like me, with a million 550s, like me, who's a competitive player, like I am. Both of us have done more (and spent more) to support this game than you have, or ever will. Reducing his nuanced, informed argument to "he wiped to Hawkeye a few times" is exactly what you're accusing me of doing.
I don't care what you think of me or my comments. Toad got nerfed, and it's great. I "invested" in the cover pack for him (did you???) and I'm happy that I can use him to play MPQ now, instead of using him as an "I win" button to cheese fights.
Ah there's the classic condescension 😂 "I've played blah blah blah with a blah roster and have spent blah and no one will ever be me because my farts smell the best no one loves them like I do". For being so "competitive" you'd think you'd spend more time playing the game than being a petulant child and alienating everyone you come across.
You sure you don't go by Daiches on Reddit? Because you both seem to go out of your way to dissuade anyone from enjoying the game (or even playing it at all) any other way than how you deem to be the correct way with the level of snide nonsense you spew hourly.
If you can only enjoy the game by mashing one button over and over again until you win, I feel sorry for you. You should try playing MPQ sometime, it's really fun!
Anyway, scoreboard. Toad got nerfed, it's over. One of us was right about this (and it wasn't you). Hopefully they'll come for Hawkeye soon.
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@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@ViralCore said:
I agree that they should take chances and be quick about rebalancing. My problem is that they pick and chose. 1-character-infinites should not exist.Toad’s rebalance is noticeably different and that’s a good thing. Unfortunately they refuse to do the same about Hawkeye. His purple cost should be bumped up and the amount of free ap should be reduced. It’s basically the same rebalance as toad.
You really gotta let the HE thing go, he's fine. At max level he has less than 100k health, he's fairly easily managed. And if there weren't supports that gave 6-12 AP to start he would barely be in any conversations.
Exactly!
Who cares if some brand new 3* player can stomp your lvl672 team over and over again for 75 points a hit? You can "easily manage" to hit those retaliations for 5 points each!
Yeah yeah yeah, we get it. Nerf everyone into oblivion, let chaos reign, antagonize people on the boards by taking things purposefully (hopefully) out of context. We get the schtick by now.
Explain how I took what you said out of context.
You are purposely disregarding and minimizing others' playstyle when you make comments like the one you made. If you don't want to play PvP competitively, good for you. Other players do and "stop complaining, he's easy to beat, who cares" is not a productive comment and does not address their concerns.
First, twisting "easily manage" to be in regards to the retaliation in a sarcastic fashion, an EB specialty!
Second, increasingly few of your comments are productive. The only thing you do is shut down concerns that don't revolve around "nerf everything so matches can go 10 minutes and no one invests in anything"
Third, what's not productive is the person who made a thread dedicated to nerfing HE shoehorning his complaint into a post about Toad, on the Toad page. He'll say it to anyone and everyone because the AI beat him one too many times with a HE he left out.
Fourth, the concerns were addressed in my post. As I said, if there weren't supports granting AP and letting players or AI fire powers immediately in PVP, HE would be a non-issue. The issue isn't HE, it's supports. But that doesn't fit your "ruin all the characters" gimmick.
That player is a 13-year vet, like me, with a million 550s, like me, who's a competitive player, like I am. Both of us have done more (and spent more) to support this game than you have, or ever will. Reducing his nuanced, informed argument to "he wiped to Hawkeye a few times" is exactly what you're accusing me of doing.
I don't care what you think of me or my comments. Toad got nerfed, and it's great. I "invested" in the cover pack for him (did you???) and I'm happy that I can use him to play MPQ now, instead of using him as an "I win" button to cheese fights.
Ah there's the classic condescension 😂 "I've played blah blah blah with a blah roster and have spent blah and no one will ever be me because my farts smell the best no one loves them like I do". For being so "competitive" you'd think you'd spend more time playing the game than being a petulant child and alienating everyone you come across.
You sure you don't go by Daiches on Reddit? Because you both seem to go out of your way to dissuade anyone from enjoying the game (or even playing it at all) any other way than how you deem to be the correct way with the level of snide nonsense you spew hourly.
If you can only enjoy the game by mashing one button over and over again until you win, I feel sorry for you. You should try playing MPQ sometime, it's really fun!
Anyway, scoreboard. Toad got nerfed, it's over. One of us was right about this (and it wasn't you). Hopefully they'll come for Hawkeye soon.
God you're annoying. It's no wonder you have to spend all your time trolling around the boards. You didn't win. No one won. The devs made a decision on a character, which had less than nothing to do with you and your loud, asinine opinions. Your imaginary scoreboard doesn't exist, it never did. But I'm sure you'll work your narcissism to twist that somehow into you being the holy messiah. For someone who plays "competitively" (lol), you sure seem real hard-pressed to make the game longer and making top placement more difficult. Real competitive🙄
And yeah, most games can be boiled down to mashing buttons until you win....that's how you play literally anything that isn't cookie clicker. How fun!
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@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@entrailbucket said:
@amigopdude22 said:
@ViralCore said:
I agree that they should take chances and be quick about rebalancing. My problem is that they pick and chose. 1-character-infinites should not exist.Toad’s rebalance is noticeably different and that’s a good thing. Unfortunately they refuse to do the same about Hawkeye. His purple cost should be bumped up and the amount of free ap should be reduced. It’s basically the same rebalance as toad.
You really gotta let the HE thing go, he's fine. At max level he has less than 100k health, he's fairly easily managed. And if there weren't supports that gave 6-12 AP to start he would barely be in any conversations.
Exactly!
Who cares if some brand new 3* player can stomp your lvl672 team over and over again for 75 points a hit? You can "easily manage" to hit those retaliations for 5 points each!
Yeah yeah yeah, we get it. Nerf everyone into oblivion, let chaos reign, antagonize people on the boards by taking things purposefully (hopefully) out of context. We get the schtick by now.
Explain how I took what you said out of context.
You are purposely disregarding and minimizing others' playstyle when you make comments like the one you made. If you don't want to play PvP competitively, good for you. Other players do and "stop complaining, he's easy to beat, who cares" is not a productive comment and does not address their concerns.
First, twisting "easily manage" to be in regards to the retaliation in a sarcastic fashion, an EB specialty!
Second, increasingly few of your comments are productive. The only thing you do is shut down concerns that don't revolve around "nerf everything so matches can go 10 minutes and no one invests in anything"
Third, what's not productive is the person who made a thread dedicated to nerfing HE shoehorning his complaint into a post about Toad, on the Toad page. He'll say it to anyone and everyone because the AI beat him one too many times with a HE he left out.
Fourth, the concerns were addressed in my post. As I said, if there weren't supports granting AP and letting players or AI fire powers immediately in PVP, HE would be a non-issue. The issue isn't HE, it's supports. But that doesn't fit your "ruin all the characters" gimmick.
That player is a 13-year vet, like me, with a million 550s, like me, who's a competitive player, like I am. Both of us have done more (and spent more) to support this game than you have, or ever will. Reducing his nuanced, informed argument to "he wiped to Hawkeye a few times" is exactly what you're accusing me of doing.
I don't care what you think of me or my comments. Toad got nerfed, and it's great. I "invested" in the cover pack for him (did you???) and I'm happy that I can use him to play MPQ now, instead of using him as an "I win" button to cheese fights.
Ah there's the classic condescension 😂 "I've played blah blah blah with a blah roster and have spent blah and no one will ever be me because my farts smell the best no one loves them like I do". For being so "competitive" you'd think you'd spend more time playing the game than being a petulant child and alienating everyone you come across.
You sure you don't go by Daiches on Reddit? Because you both seem to go out of your way to dissuade anyone from enjoying the game (or even playing it at all) any other way than how you deem to be the correct way with the level of snide nonsense you spew hourly.
If you can only enjoy the game by mashing one button over and over again until you win, I feel sorry for you. You should try playing MPQ sometime, it's really fun!
Anyway, scoreboard. Toad got nerfed, it's over. One of us was right about this (and it wasn't you). Hopefully they'll come for Hawkeye soon.
God you're annoying. It's no wonder you have to spend all your time trolling around the boards. You didn't win. No one won. The devs made a decision on a character, which had less than nothing to do with you and your loud, asinine opinions. Your imaginary scoreboard doesn't exist, it never did. But I'm sure you'll work your narcissism to twist that somehow into you being the holy messiah. For someone who plays "competitively" (lol), you sure seem real hard-pressed to make the game longer and making top placement more difficult. Real competitive🙄
And yeah, most games can be boiled down to mashing buttons until you win....that's how you play literally anything that isn't cookie clicker. How fun!
Top placement should take longer, and it should be very difficult. Why shouldn't it be? Why wouldn't a competitive player want it to be hard to win a competition? If everyone can win, then winning is meaningless.
I post here because I like talking about the game. I have no idea where you're getting all these personal insults from. I had nothing to do with them fixing Toad, and I actually said I wouldn't have done it the way they did it anyway. It feels like you're making stuff up to get mad.
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