5 star gambit,s black sucks makes Shang chi and MThor useless

My 5 star gambit isn’t covered a lot but his black makes it so I can’t fire anyone’s red or purple but his. That makes my go to team of Shang Chi and MThor useless. Who should I team up with Remy?

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  • WilliamK1983
    WilliamK1983 Posts: 1,387 Chairperson of the Boards

    Haven't started yet, but I'm looking at juggs fear and aunt may frying pan. Let the match and passive damage go off.

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 896 Critical Contributor

    MThor should still do her passive stuff.
    Power stone on Shang could bypass the power use thing, but you wouldn't be able to select the tiles.

    Otherwise... Would need to know what your roster looks like to offer anything of substance.

    3 A5 Namor and May work.
    Fear juggs is boosted.
    1 A5 widow is also boosted with decent blue and yellow.

    I can't remember who I actually used because I was focused on getting event quests knocked out so I used a lot of different teams to complete those.

    But that's all irrelevant without knowing your roster.

    If you rely on Shang/MThor you likely don't have the options I mentioned here available to you. And if Shang/MThor can't passively complete the gambit nodes you may have joined the PvE at a level your roster is ready for.

    Just some things to think about.

    Anyway... If you want advice that means anything you need to provide info on your roster and which scl you joined.

  • Hellblazer666
    Hellblazer666 Posts: 423 Mover and Shaker
    edited 12 December 2025, 01:34

    @Blackstone said:
    MThor should still do her passive stuff.
    Power stone on Shang could bypass the power use thing, but you wouldn't be able to select the tiles.

    Otherwise... Would need to know what your roster looks like to offer anything of substance.

    3 A5 Namor and May work.
    Fear juggs is boosted.
    1 A5 widow is also boosted with decent blue and yellow.

    I can't remember who I actually used because I was focused on getting event quests knocked out so I used a lot of different teams to complete those.

    But that's all irrelevant without knowing your roster.

    If you rely on Shang/MThor you likely don't have the options I mentioned here available to you. And if Shang/MThor can't passively complete the gambit nodes you may have joined the PvE at a level your roster is ready for.

    Just some things to think about.

    Anyway... If you want advice that means anything you need to provide info on your roster and which scl you joined.

    I joined scl 7 which is scl 9. Ya I can still use Mthor's blue and yellow but Shang's abilities are not useable. I was able to complete 3 rounds of gambit. But takes a bit longer without mthor red and shang chi purple

  • MCPenance
    MCPenance Posts: 62 Match Maker

    My Gambit is champed, which makes it easier.

    I used ascended M'Baku and 3a5 Namor.

    Also had a lot of fun with the power stone on Gambit, plus Coulson (refreshmemt cart) and 5* Hawkeye (chimi) for shenanigans.

  • Chrynos1989
    Chrynos1989 Posts: 607 Critical Contributor

    @Hellblazer666 said:
    My 5 star gambit isn’t covered a lot but his black makes it so I can’t fire anyone’s red or purple but his. That makes my go to team of Shang Chi and MThor useless. Who should I team up with Remy?

    I assume you mean for pve 5* essential node, since that’s the only fight you HAVE to use him
    I use Baku and 3* Namor for that

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,857 Chairperson of the Boards

    FrankieNova/3a4May

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 12,126 Chairperson of the Boards

    Isn't 4* Juggs boosted? I'm sure he could help?

  • Grantosium
    Grantosium Posts: 130 Tile Toppler

    It is hilarious that Captain Britain's purple is stronger with Excalibur team mates, has Gambit in the animation and you can't use it if Gambit is in the team. Oops!

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,957 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Hellblazer666 said:
    My 5 star gambit isn’t covered a lot but his black makes it so I can’t fire anyone’s red or purple but his. That makes my go to team of Shang Chi and MThor useless. Who should I team up with Remy?

    Probably just skip those fights. It's crazy that they force us to do fights and lock out the only good characters.

  • Hellblazer666
    Hellblazer666 Posts: 423 Mover and Shaker
    edited 12 December 2025, 20:21

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Hellblazer666 said:
    My 5 star gambit isn’t covered a lot but his black makes it so I can’t fire anyone’s red or purple but his. That makes my go to team of Shang Chi and MThor useless. Who should I team up with Remy?

    Probably just skip those fights. It's crazy that they force us to do fights and lock out the only good characters.

    Its weird 5 star gambit is the only one who has this **** ability. I will at least try for the gold token

    If the devs wanna remove that part of 5 star Gambit in the future it would be greatly appreciated

  • WilliamK1983
    WilliamK1983 Posts: 1,387 Chairperson of the Boards

    Tell us your alliance name so we can make suggestions from your roster.

  • UnityGamer
    UnityGamer Posts: 65 Match Maker

    I researched the power in question, Stacked Deck, and it says in the description "finds an advantage for himself at any cost." At Level 5, he can generate 3 Purple and Red APs after the 2-turn Repeater Countdown tile expires. In essence, Gambit is hogging the APs for himself as both of his powers rely on Purple and Red APs.

    Ragin' Cajun and Aces & Eights only costs 11 Purple AP and 7 Red AP respectively. If the Stacked Deck tile is only meant to power up his powers while disabling his teammates' Purple and Red, shouldn't his powers get a revision? Ragin' Cajun's cost should go down, 7 Purple AP.

    Aces & Eights should get a full revision. The move destroys two random basic or charged tiles for damage, then creates three charged tiles. If you have less than 11 Red AP, it should cost only 8 Red AP. If you have 11 Red AP or more, you gain the added option of selecting three more tiles for Gambit to also destroy. Whatever tiles you choose to destroy will cost AP. So if you select two Blue tiles and a Black tile, the total cost for Aces & Eights when above 11 Red AP is 8 Red AP, 2 Blue AP and 1 Black AP. If you didn't get the hint, an Ace in Poker is worth 11. Hmm... maybe you can make a mini-Poker game out of this where depending on the tiles destroyed, Gambit produces an effect like creating special tiles, trap tiles, or a special override countdown tile that would bypass the Purple and Red power restriction.

    Going back to Stacked Deck, the one thing I've yet to try is Gambit's presence. Normally, when a character is stunned, their active and passive powers are rendered disabled... but we have recently seen a short wave of characters with moves containing the description "This power is always unlocked." Nowhere in Stacked Deck do these words appear in its description. So give this a try:

    If Gambit is Stunned, or sent Away by characters like Wong or Kang, do your Purple and Red powers work again?

  • kuntilanak
    kuntilanak Posts: 288 Mover and Shaker

    @UnityGamer said:
    I researched the power in question, Stacked Deck, and it says in the description "finds an advantage for himself at any cost." At Level 5, he can generate 3 Purple and Red APs after the 2-turn Repeater Countdown tile expires. In essence, Gambit is hogging the APs for himself as both of his powers rely on Purple and Red APs.

    Ragin' Cajun and Aces & Eights only costs 11 Purple AP and 7 Red AP respectively. If the Stacked Deck tile is only meant to power up his powers while disabling his teammates' Purple and Red, shouldn't his powers get a revision? Ragin' Cajun's cost should go down, 7 Purple AP.

    Aces & Eights should get a full revision. The move destroys two random basic or charged tiles for damage, then creates three charged tiles. If you have less than 11 Red AP, it should cost only 8 Red AP. If you have 11 Red AP or more, you gain the added option of selecting three more tiles for Gambit to also destroy. Whatever tiles you choose to destroy will cost AP. So if you select two Blue tiles and a Black tile, the total cost for Aces & Eights when above 11 Red AP is 8 Red AP, 2 Blue AP and 1 Black AP. If you didn't get the hint, an Ace in Poker is worth 11. Hmm... maybe you can make a mini-Poker game out of this where depending on the tiles destroyed, Gambit produces an effect like creating special tiles, trap tiles, or a special override countdown tile that would bypass the Purple and Red power restriction.

    Going back to Stacked Deck, the one thing I've yet to try is Gambit's presence. Normally, when a character is stunned, their active and passive powers are rendered disabled... but we have recently seen a short wave of characters with moves containing the description "This power is always unlocked." Nowhere in Stacked Deck do these words appear in its description. So give this a try:

    If Gambit is Stunned, or sent Away by characters like Wong or Kang, do your Purple and Red powers work again?

    His power were reworked. Before this even more useless. And yes, if he's stunned, away, airborne or down, others' red purple power will work.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,957 Chairperson of the Boards

    If you weren't around for it, Gambit completely dominated the game for a really long time after he was released, and then he ate a really big nerf. They've buffed his numbers since then but they left the costs basically the same and kept the lockout.

    When he was released the lockout was meant to be a downside but he had by far the best red and purple abilities in the game, so nobody really cared. That is not the case anymore, and we have way more efficient AP generators now anyway, so it's pretty pointless.

  • kuntilanak
    kuntilanak Posts: 288 Mover and Shaker

    @entrailbucket said:
    If you weren't around for it, Gambit completely dominated the game for a really long time after he was released, and then he ate a really big nerf. They've buffed his numbers since then but they left the costs basically the same and kept the lockout.

    When he was released the lockout was meant to be a downside but he had by far the best red and purple abilities in the game, so nobody really cared. That is not the case anymore, and we have way more efficient AP generators now anyway, so it's pretty pointless.

    His initial kit was so broken that ppl just recruit his black only that generates red purple regardless till he's down, and proceed to dominate with other cheap red purple powers (4* spider Gwen). Then he's nerfed to oblivion. But later they reworked his red to something of a nuke, with passive charge tile generation to boot.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,957 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 13 December 2025, 00:58

    @kuntilanak said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    If you weren't around for it, Gambit completely dominated the game for a really long time after he was released, and then he ate a really big nerf. They've buffed his numbers since then but they left the costs basically the same and kept the lockout.

    When he was released the lockout was meant to be a downside but he had by far the best red and purple abilities in the game, so nobody really cared. That is not the case anymore, and we have way more efficient AP generators now anyway, so it's pretty pointless.

    His initial kit was so broken that ppl just recruit his black only that generates red purple regardless till he's down, and proceed to dominate with other cheap red purple powers (4* spider Gwen). Then he's nerfed to oblivion. But later they reworked his red to something of a nuke, with passive charge tile generation to boot.

    That never happened.

    At the time, 5* were very rare. Nobody could spare the covers to create a battery-only Gambit, and it would've been a big waste anyway, because he was by far the best character in the game when maxed out.

    You're thinking of 3* Gambit, who was launched with the same passive as the 5*, but no lockout. A 3* was much easier to obtain, and recruiting a max Gambit plus an 0/0/5 one to use as a battery wasn't totally crazy. Generally he was paired with 4* Spider-Gwen, for infinite stuns. 3* Gambit was nerfed pretty quickly into his current state.

  • Warbringa
    Warbringa Posts: 1,336 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Hellblazer666 said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Hellblazer666 said:
    My 5 star gambit isn’t covered a lot but his black makes it so I can’t fire anyone’s red or purple but his. That makes my go to team of Shang Chi and MThor useless. Who should I team up with Remy?

    Probably just skip those fights. It's crazy that they force us to do fights and lock out the only good characters.

    Its weird 5 star gambit is the only one who has this **** ability. I will at least try for the gold token

    If the devs wanna remove that part of 5 star Gambit in the future it would be greatly appreciated

    A long time ago, Gambit used to be hands down the best character in the game. Then they nerfed him into oblivion....

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,973 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Warbringa said:

    @Hellblazer666 said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Hellblazer666 said:
    My 5 star gambit isn’t covered a lot but his black makes it so I can’t fire anyone’s red or purple but his. That makes my go to team of Shang Chi and MThor useless. Who should I team up with Remy?

    Probably just skip those fights. It's crazy that they force us to do fights and lock out the only good characters.

    Its weird 5 star gambit is the only one who has this **** ability. I will at least try for the gold token

    If the devs wanna remove that part of 5 star Gambit in the future it would be greatly appreciated

    A long time ago, Gambit used to be hands down the best character in the game. Then they nerfed him into oblivion....

    Then they buffed him, and he's actually not bad now. I think alot of people just have had this idea that he's terrible for so long and never actually use him when he's buffed. FA cap and banner hulk suffer from the same stigma.

  • kuntilanak
    kuntilanak Posts: 288 Mover and Shaker

    @entrailbucket said:

    @kuntilanak said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    If you weren't around for it, Gambit completely dominated the game for a really long time after he was released, and then he ate a really big nerf. They've buffed his numbers since then but they left the costs basically the same and kept the lockout.

    When he was released the lockout was meant to be a downside but he had by far the best red and purple abilities in the game, so nobody really cared. That is not the case anymore, and we have way more efficient AP generators now anyway, so it's pretty pointless.

    His initial kit was so broken that ppl just recruit his black only that generates red purple regardless till he's down, and proceed to dominate with other cheap red purple powers (4* spider Gwen). Then he's nerfed to oblivion. But later they reworked his red to something of a nuke, with passive charge tile generation to boot.

    That never happened.

    At the time, 5* were very rare. Nobody could spare the covers to create a battery-only Gambit, and it would've been a big waste anyway, because he was by far the best character in the game when maxed out.

    You're thinking of 3* Gambit, who was launched with the same passive as the 5*, but no lockout. A 3* was much easier to obtain, and recruiting a max Gambit plus an 0/0/5 one to use as a battery wasn't totally crazy. Generally he was paired with 4* Spider-Gwen, for infinite stuns. 3* Gambit was nerfed pretty quickly into his current state.

    Oh ya. My bad. But 5* also got issue, just that I wasn't at that stage yet so didn't pay much attention.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,957 Chairperson of the Boards

    @kuntilanak said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @kuntilanak said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    If you weren't around for it, Gambit completely dominated the game for a really long time after he was released, and then he ate a really big nerf. They've buffed his numbers since then but they left the costs basically the same and kept the lockout.

    When he was released the lockout was meant to be a downside but he had by far the best red and purple abilities in the game, so nobody really cared. That is not the case anymore, and we have way more efficient AP generators now anyway, so it's pretty pointless.

    His initial kit was so broken that ppl just recruit his black only that generates red purple regardless till he's down, and proceed to dominate with other cheap red purple powers (4* spider Gwen). Then he's nerfed to oblivion. But later they reworked his red to something of a nuke, with passive charge tile generation to boot.

    That never happened.

    At the time, 5* were very rare. Nobody could spare the covers to create a battery-only Gambit, and it would've been a big waste anyway, because he was by far the best character in the game when maxed out.

    You're thinking of 3* Gambit, who was launched with the same passive as the 5*, but no lockout. A 3* was much easier to obtain, and recruiting a max Gambit plus an 0/0/5 one to use as a battery wasn't totally crazy. Generally he was paired with 4* Spider-Gwen, for infinite stuns. 3* Gambit was nerfed pretty quickly into his current state.

    Oh ya. My bad. But 5* also got issue, just that I wasn't at that stage yet so didn't pay much attention.

    It's ok! I realized I came off kinda jerky there and I didn't mean to. Lots of people misremember what happened back then (it was a long time ago!) and I've seen the same thing a bunch before.