New Pick Two Meta: 5Frankive/5IH. Thoughts on best counters?

Genuine question: Is it a Meta when it’s based on who’s boosted that week? Because I assume this will change back again once iHulk isn’t boosted.

@LavaManLee said:

@Zarqa said:
Genuine question: Is it a Meta when it’s based on who’s boosted that week? Because I assume this will change back again once iHulk isn’t boosted.

I don't think it will change much as he is annoying on that team even at low levels. In fact, some might better he's better on a meta team when he isn't at high levels as he dies sooner and comes back stronger. We had a similar issue with Okoye/IH years ago. But at least Okoye was easier to kill than Frankie is, especially if she gets enough green to just keep firing when she returns from Airborn.

When we had okoye/ihulk there was no 5 star god boost, so every pvp was the best meta team over and over. Now they we do have boost lists i see much more variety since a decent character boosted to lvl 672 is much better than a 550, even a meta 550.

Even this week I'm not seeing a whole ton of ihulk/nova teams. Even though my hulk is over 600 and my nova is almost max, I'm running 672 2a5 Ares with soul stone and Iron May green ap supports. Even though nova/hulk would be scarieron defense, defense doesn't matter a whole lot even i can kill any team in a matter of seconds.

I saw other people running the and team as me. I also saw 1a5 yelena with may and 5 Kaine with may. I saw more May teams than Ihulk Nova teams.

Okoye/hulk was nowhere near as easy to kill as nova. I had to dredge thorough ihulk/okoye with brb/kitty or brb/apoc. I'm immediately killing nova with a lvl 672 nuke and ap supports.

Frankie is immune to stun, so Archamgel doesn’t pull her down from airborne.

I do think the metagame is headed in this direction, at least for players absolutely determined to never touch a boosted character.

The current pick for those players is Juggernaut/Sam, and Nova/Hulk is just better.

@LavaManLee said:
Well, some clamored for a new meta and that time is now. At least in SCL10 PVP, at some point you hit a wall of 550 Frankie and some version of 5 Immortal Hulk (welcome back!). The supports added to them all make sure, in high probability they will survive enough on first turn to fire Frankie's green and make it a slog. Thoughts on counters?

The best counter is to bring a boosted guy and a bunch of free AP supports and oneshot Nova turn0 (through her damage reduction).

The number of characters who can do this is limited but there are quite a few. Ares can do it with his green this week.

@Read_Only said:

@entrailbucket said:

The "metagame" of any game refers to which strategies and tactics are popular at the current time. It has absolutely nothing to do with what teams are overpowered, or bad on defense, or anything else.

If a lot of people are using Nova/Hulk, then it's a significant part of the metagame. I have no opinion on whether it makes any of them a "meta" character because that is a meaningless nonsense expression.

If Defense didn’t matter people would still be using Sam and juggs.

Go look up the word "metagame" then read my post again.

@LavaManLee said:
So, from my original question, I still am not seeing a good two character team to take down 5Frankie/5IH. Or are people just keeping those teams to themselves? :-)

Team that have pounded me this morning:

Ares and May
1* Hawkeye and Shang purple supports
1* venom and polaris

And as I said anyone who hits hard with purple man.

I use 5* Ascended Black King with Hell Fire Club support and 5* Wong with Kamar Taj support. Once per battle when you take down someone with the Kamar-Taj support, they stay out of the fight permanetly. So IH stays down for good and doesn't revive. Black King is great at dealing with charged tiles and tanking hits and hitting back hard.