Vulgarity in alliance chat

Blackstone
Blackstone Posts: 668 Critical Contributor
in MPQ General Discussion

Short version: someone joined my alliance for, seemingly, no other purpose than to say offensive things. Some SA related, others threats of violence, and lots of vulgarity.

Removed them, but how do I remove the messages?

Longer version: my alliance is basically an entry point. New players join, a few long time players help with advice, etc... Then players rotate out as there roster fills out and they try to find alliances with minimums and rules and such.

Anyway, a random guy with maybe six covers joined and made several inappropriate comments in the chat.

Player has been kicked but his messages remain.

I've been playing this game for over ten years and am only just now having this issue (that's a win) but I've never even thought about needing to delete chat messages.

If anyone has any knowledge on this it would be appreciated as I'd like to get the messages removed as soon as possible.

Comments

  • Codex
    Codex Posts: 389 Mover and Shaker

    I have seen alliances just enter "." Over and over again until the messages get pushed out.

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,513 Chairperson of the Boards

    @S0kun @MPQBlaine - could either of you help with this?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,455 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 24 April 2025, 23:38

    Edit: posted something totally wrong here!

  • Chrynos1989
    Chrynos1989 Posts: 389 Mover and Shaker
    edited 24 April 2025, 19:05

    @Blackstone all of you should send a request for TUs and write a short message of what you need, makes already about 40 messages to push out the trash and you all get useful TUs

  • Codex
    Codex Posts: 389 Mover and Shaker

    @entrailbucket said:
    I think anyone new who joins your alliance won't see any chat posts from before they joined, so at least you can rest easy about new members.

    This doesn't solve the problem for players already in your alliance though, and this sort of feature should really be something they prioritize when redoing alliance chat.

    I don't believe this is true....but it has been 3 years since I switched alliance. So it could be the case now.
    Previously I would hop around and guage alliance participation through the chat. I could definitely see messages posted prior to me joining including buys.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,455 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Codex said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    I think anyone new who joins your alliance won't see any chat posts from before they joined, so at least you can rest easy about new members.

    This doesn't solve the problem for players already in your alliance though, and this sort of feature should really be something they prioritize when redoing alliance chat.

    I don't believe this is true....but it has been 3 years since I switched alliance. So it could be the case now.
    Previously I would hop around and guage alliance participation through the chat. I could definitely see messages posted prior to me joining including buys.

    Hmmmm, maybe I'm wrong then. It's been...uh...like 9 years since I switched alliances!

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,455 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Codex said:
    I have seen alliances just enter "." Over and over again until the messages get pushed out.

    This is probably the best solution, quickest, and will fix it for old members and new members even if I'm wrong about the other thing.

    They should still give us better chat tools in game though.

  • skittledaddy
    skittledaddy Posts: 1,013 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 24 April 2025, 22:20

    entrailbucket said:
    I think anyone new who joins your alliance won't see any chat posts from before they joined, so at least you can rest easy about new members.

    This doesn't solve the problem for players already in your alliance though, and this sort of feature should really be something they prioritize when redoing alliance chat.

    I can confirm that this is definitely incorrect. As a frequent merc/casual in my pseudo-retirement, I change alliances numerous times a week. I can see everything posted (and still new enough to not be "pushed out") even prior to me joining. In fact, I often use that history to decide if I'm going to stick around for a few events or not.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,052 Chairperson of the Boards

    Unless I’m way off, or it’s different on Android, the chat only saves the 50 most recent posts and that’s it.

    You could literally type “I’m going to post numbers to get rid of the offensive messages” then post 1-48 one message at a time and then something like “that solves that”.

  • S0kun
    S0kun ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 839 Critical Contributor

    Unfortunately, I don't see any way to remove a specific chat message in debug so not much I can specifically do outside of outright banning the player.

  • Blazpheme
    Blazpheme Posts: 25 Just Dropped In

    Others have already mentioned what is probably the easiest, and I agree. Just spam the chat with anything you can think of - type out a few numbers, tell some Doc-Ock knock-knock jokes, write a haiku about your favorite mutant, run a poll on which character has the best hairdo, whatever silliness comes to mind. Do that repeatedly until those nasty comments disappear.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,455 Chairperson of the Boards

    @skittledaddy said:

    entrailbucket said:
    I think anyone new who joins your alliance won't see any chat posts from before they joined, so at least you can rest easy about new members.

    This doesn't solve the problem for players already in your alliance though, and this sort of feature should really be something they prioritize when redoing alliance chat.

    I can confirm that this is definitely incorrect. As a frequent merc/casual in my pseudo-retirement, I change alliances numerous times a week. I can see everything posted (and still new enough to not be "pushed out") even prior to me joining. In fact, I often use that history to decide if I'm going to stick around for a few events or not.

    Thanks, I removed the wrong information.

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 668 Critical Contributor

    I spammed the comments. Thanks for the replies.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,052 Chairperson of the Boards

    This does bring up an issue and question regarding plans for an updated alliance chat after the new engine is implemented and the chat is updated, and how many messages will be retained under that chat, and whether there will be moderation available to commanders or someone.

  • NMANOZ1
    NMANOZ1 Posts: 144 Tile Toppler

    They should allow commanders to delete messages with the new engine. But the best thing would be able to set a minimum roster level a person has to be able to join that alliance.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,767 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Blackstone said:
    I spammed the comments. Thanks for the replies.

    Crazy you had to do this, hopefully in future there will be better options.

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 668 Critical Contributor

    @DAZ0273 said:

    @Blackstone said:
    I spammed the comments. Thanks for the replies.

    Crazy you had to do this, hopefully in future there will be better options.

    Agreed. I'm a firm believer in free speech but treating others with dignity and respect means being aware of your audience.

    It was pretty vile and it's a good example of why moderation is needed within chat apps.

    I will reiterate though... This being the first time I've had to deal with it in over a decade of playing says good things about the general MPQ community, in my opinion at least.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,767 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Blackstone said:

    @DAZ0273 said:

    @Blackstone said:
    I spammed the comments. Thanks for the replies.

    Crazy you had to do this, hopefully in future there will be better options.

    Agreed. I'm a firm believer in free speech but treating others with dignity and respect means being aware of your audience.

    It was pretty vile and it's a good example of why moderation is needed within chat apps.

    I will reiterate though... This being the first time I've had to deal with it in over a decade of playing says good things about the general MPQ community, in my opinion at least.

    The MPQ community that I have encountered seem most really good people when it comes to this sort of thing - in all years playing I am probably the one in my alliance who needs banning for the admitted rare language! I have to admit I was pretty shocked that this happened to you in MPQ terms but glad you have hopefully now got sorted. Match on, matey!

  • Chrynos1989
    Chrynos1989 Posts: 389 Mover and Shaker

    @DAZ0273 said:
    The MPQ community that I have encountered seem most really good people when it comes to this sort of thing - in all years playing I am probably the one in my alliance who needs banning for the admitted rare language! I have to admit I was pretty shocked that this happened to you in MPQ terms but glad you have hopefully now got sorted. Match on, matey!

    Yeah, MPQ community is actually very sophisticated, sometimes a single person trashtalks, but nothing a lesson taught in PVP can’t clear

    I remember the times when I played DbD, oh boi, that was harsh…

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 668 Critical Contributor

    @Chrynos1989 said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    The MPQ community that I have encountered seem most really good people when it comes to this sort of thing - in all years playing I am probably the one in my alliance who needs banning for the admitted rare language! I have to admit I was pretty shocked that this happened to you in MPQ terms but glad you have hopefully now got sorted. Match on, matey!

    Yeah, MPQ community is actually very sophisticated, sometimes a single person trashtalks, but nothing a lesson taught in PVP can’t clear

    I remember the times when I played DbD, oh boi, that was harsh…

    Trash talk is one thing... This was something else entirely.

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