Hobgoblin (Roderick Kingsley) 5*

I am pretty impressed how far you guys have gone to try and find a rescue for Hobby, it is fantastic stuff. Sadly I am not so sure Hobby deserves all this effort but that is what he gets for being a cheap hood with a knock off kit. I do wonder who we might have got if the Devs were still doing 5/3 releases - maybe Demon Hobby from Inferno?

@dianetics said:
After using him I am viciously apathetic.
He could have been interesting 3 years ago.
He has no place in the game as it stands today.

I think he should start the game airborne and use his black on 3 random tiles when he returns from airborne.

I'll be honest that I'm not super excited about him, but my resource flow means I can basically get most of the new toons to 500+ at this point if I want, although I might need to stop pulling for some of them. Anyway, maybe it'll be fun to use him for infinite sometimes.

I agree there should be some passive bomb component. It could be 2 random tiles every 2 turns or something.

Also anyone new who is CD or Repeater based should punish Thor and others for destroying their tiles imo, especially if they're supposed to be bombs. I don't really care what the penalty is, but something. Even just AP stealing would be nice.

The fact that this new guy creates/enables a turn 1 infinite combo that beats literally anything, and he's BAD -- I think that's as big an indictment of the current metagame as I've seen.

And I agree that he's bad, too! A turn 1 infinite combo that beats any enemies of any level is BAD. Let that sink in.

Devil Dinosaur feeds Venom Dino and it didn't change there unfortunately, so wouldn't get your hopes up.

@ironsmudgie said:

@DAZ0273 said:
Devil Dinosaur feeds Venom Dino and it didn't change there unfortunately, so wouldn't get your hopes up.

Does he? I just checked and mine does not show shards in reward tree, only LLs.

Oh wait, no he doesn't, I got that totally wrong! So uhm...hey, is that Ruby Thursday over there?!?!?!

vroom

Turn > @Seph1roth5 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@WhiteBomber said:
I love the idea and know Coulson is amazing, but that team will get seriously injured (if they win at all) against meta, or Kang, SWitch, Immortals, Agatha3/BRB etc.?

In this scenario you would also need to start with 5 red and 6 blue.

Seriously asking, definitely not trying to put down:
What kind of damage would that do to a max health Juggs or Baku? It should be close to a fixed number (barring cascades) since the countdowns are the same every match.

Theoretically it'd kill anything, but there are faster ways to do it. You do need to stay alive for one turn.

Start with 5 red or blue somehow (probably requires boosts)
Turn 0 cast Hawkeye red or blue, get 5 Coulson CDs
Turn 1 Coulson CDs resolve, Hawkeye generates 12 Blue and 8 red.

Expedite until everyone is dead. Every time you expedite you get 5 more Coulson CDs, which the next Expedite resolves 4 of, giving you 15 Blue and 10 red from Hawkeye.

It's actually super busted! That power shouldn't be blue (it should be yellow), but I guess nobody cares.

I don't get turn 0. It sounds like on turn 1 you're casting a power and getting coulson's CD, and then next turn, turn 2, they resolve?

Turn 0 is what you can do before the opponent gets any turn at all.

@LavaManLee said:
Turn > @Seph1roth5 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@WhiteBomber said:
I love the idea and know Coulson is amazing, but that team will get seriously injured (if they win at all) against meta, or Kang, SWitch, Immortals, Agatha3/BRB etc.?

In this scenario you would also need to start with 5 red and 6 blue.

Seriously asking, definitely not trying to put down:
What kind of damage would that do to a max health Juggs or Baku? It should be close to a fixed number (barring cascades) since the countdowns are the same every match.

Theoretically it'd kill anything, but there are faster ways to do it. You do need to stay alive for one turn.

Start with 5 red or blue somehow (probably requires boosts)
Turn 0 cast Hawkeye red or blue, get 5 Coulson CDs
Turn 1 Coulson CDs resolve, Hawkeye generates 12 Blue and 8 red.

Expedite until everyone is dead. Every time you expedite you get 5 more Coulson CDs, which the next Expedite resolves 4 of, giving you 15 Blue and 10 red from Hawkeye.

It's actually super busted! That power shouldn't be blue (it should be yellow), but I guess nobody cares.

I don't get turn 0. It sounds like on turn 1 you're casting a power and getting coulson's CD, and then next turn, turn 2, they resolve?

Turn 0 is what you can do before the opponent gets any turn at all.

Turn 0 is what you do/can do before you make a match (ie start of battle/turn powers, any powers you can fire from starting AP etc) . Once you make a match, that's your turn 1.

KGB

thank goodness for playing 20 missions with Gobby that helps

@Godzillafan67 said:

@entrailbucket said:
Yeah sorry, "turn 0" is what happens before you move the board the first time. I suppose you could call that turn 1 and still be correct!

Yes...

However, I think separating turn 0 from turn 1 is a worthwhile distinction. If a tactic succeeds on turn 0, then the play cannot be affected by bad boards or AI shenanigans on its turn 1.

I think so too! But some of the terminology we use for stuff isn't super clear or obvious, so if somebody asks I feel like I should explain it.