New Character - Gorgon (X of Swords) 5*

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  • bigjojo04
    bigjojo04 Posts: 420 Mover and Shaker

    @bluewolf said:
    As far as a future primary feeder, maybe a 4* Viper will come into the game eventually.

    To be honest she’s probably one of the more prominent people not in the game.

    They even put her in The Wolverine!

    Not to downplay Viper, but i can think of a lot of more prominent characters not in the game other than her. coughREDSKULLcough

  • Zalasta
    Zalasta Posts: 302 Mover and Shaker

    @KGB said:

    @GrimSkald said:

    @Zalasta said:
    I’m curious. With a secondary feeder only, I am unable to roster him. Who has been able to roster him and start working on the gorgon quests for additional shards? I don’t see any way to reliably roster him until we complete the PvE for rewards, or his store. The PvE won’t give me the 3 covers to run his quests, and the store isn’t until after the quests expire. Not great.

    He was rosterable as of about 7am EST this morning. Search for "Gorgon" and scroll past your empty roster slots, he's down there.

    You will get a loaner for his PVP, too, and that will start Sunday, but if you roster him now you can get a head start. I got two covers (370+280 Silver Samurai,) which kind of sucks, really, but I'll be up to, what, 4ish by the end of his PVE so long as I can do these quests.

    I think he meant that as a secondary feeder that there was < 500 shards available for most of us and so we don't even have enough for 1 cover.

    KGB

    Ummm yea.. I don’t have enough shards for one cover, much less one of each color that I’d need to complete the Gorgon event quests that reward another 750 shards. How am i supposed to obtain those covers before quest ends in six days?

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,912 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Zalasta
    The quote you included, included a quote from higher up about the PvP. We all get a loaner in a couple days or so that can be used to complete the quests although you may need to play extra matches.

  • Zalasta
    Zalasta Posts: 302 Mover and Shaker

    @bluewolf said:
    @Zalasta
    The quote you included, included a quote from higher up about the PvP. We all get a loaner in a couple days or so that can be used to complete the quests although you may need to play extra matches.

    So they’ve started the clock on quests that nobody can complete until we get loaners in a couple of days?

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,441 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Zalasta said:

    @bluewolf said:
    @Zalasta
    The quote you included, included a quote from higher up about the PvP. We all get a loaner in a couple days or so that can be used to complete the quests although you may need to play extra matches.

    So they’ve started the clock on quests that nobody can complete until we get loaners in a couple of days?

    Not really any different to the new release 2* quests where you need an ascended 2a4 for quest which 99% would only be able top get through some sort of vault before the PVP. You have to rely on loaners for that too (although I guess the rewards aren't as good depending on where you are in the food chain).

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,912 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Zalasta said:

    @bluewolf said:
    @Zalasta
    The quote you included, included a quote from higher up about the PvP. We all get a loaner in a couple days or so that can be used to complete the quests although you may need to play extra matches.

    So they’ve started the clock on quests that nobody can complete until we get loaners in a couple of days?

    Well yes. This is how it’s been every time in terms of quest timing, since they started this about 10-11 months ago.

    Some people have 1 or maybe a few covers. Some can choose to chase covers in the hp store. Some might favorite Silver Samurau and go crazy.

    The devs have an incentive to encourage resource use and spending and if you don’t complete the quests I mean it’s just 0.5 covers per quest.

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,381 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Zalasta said:

    @bluewolf said:
    @Zalasta
    The quote you included, included a quote from higher up about the PvP. We all get a loaner in a couple days or so that can be used to complete the quests although you may need to play extra matches.

    So they’ve started the clock on quests that nobody can complete until we get loaners in a couple of days?

    Well, not nobody. I got 2 covers from shards, so I can complete 2 of the quests, and I only have 1 silver samurai that isn't at 370 yet. I imagine there are people that have a 370 and a champed dupe that got enough shards for all 3 covers.

  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,689 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bluewolf said:

    @Zalasta said:

    @bluewolf said:
    @Zalasta
    The quote you included, included a quote from higher up about the PvP. We all get a loaner in a couple days or so that can be used to complete the quests although you may need to play extra matches.

    So they’ve started the clock on quests that nobody can complete until we get loaners in a couple of days?

    Well yes. This is how it’s been every time in terms of quest timing, since they started this about 10-11 months ago.

    Some people have 1 or maybe a few covers. Some can choose to chase covers in the hp store. Some might favorite Silver Samurau and go crazy.

    The devs have an incentive to encourage resource use and spending and if you don’t complete the quests I mean it’s just 0.5 covers per quest.

    This is just my opinion, but I think from the Devs perspective the difference between a primary and secondary feeder is negligible, so they don't see any need to do things differently. To be honest, for the majority of the player base this is probably true - there isn't a lot of difference between 1-3 and 0-.75 covers after all. I opened up a thread to discuss that for just that reason - so we can share how the forum readers see this differently.

    I don't share that opinion, of course -- I would have gotten 7 covers from my Silver Samurai (370+280) which would have given me a weak but still usable (at least for the quests) Gorgon and enough of a real character to figure out what he's good for. As it is I got 2.5 covers, so just enough to do two of the quests which gave me enough for all three, but 1/1/1 is not great to get a feel for the character.

    Maybe they'll introduce a Primary feeder in the future, but I tend to think that they just don't see it like we do.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,441 Chairperson of the Boards

    I also suspect that the Devs are not paying any attention to players ability to "get things done in advance". You will get a PVP with a loaner that provides opportunity to complete quests (of course this requires sub-optimal play but that is another can of worms)- Devs job is done. If you are lucky to be able to get covers in advance good for you but not a primary concern.

  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,689 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:
    I also suspect that the Devs are not paying any attention to players ability to "get things done in advance". You will get a PVP with a loaner that provides opportunity to complete quests (of course this requires sub-optimal play but that is another can of worms)- Devs job is done. If you are lucky to be able to get covers in advance good for you but not a primary concern.

    Yes, but 20 uses of the power will rely on a lot of sub-optimal play in the PVP, which is a different can of worms. That doesn't change the fact that it could well be their perspective on things.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,441 Chairperson of the Boards

    @GrimSkald said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    I also suspect that the Devs are not paying any attention to players ability to "get things done in advance". You will get a PVP with a loaner that provides opportunity to complete quests (of course this requires sub-optimal play but that is another can of worms)- Devs job is done. If you are lucky to be able to get covers in advance good for you but not a primary concern.

    Yes, but 20 uses of the power will rely on a lot of sub-optimal play in the PVP, which is a different can of worms. That doesn't change the fact that it could well be their perspective on things.

    Oh I agree completely but obviously the Devs have different priorities than we do. I hate the 2a4 release quests quite a bit, at least sometimes the 5* loaners are not too terrible.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,493 Chairperson of the Boards

    His blue is awful for this type of a Quest. You can only fire it if you have the AP and if you have already destroyed some tiles on your turn. So you have to do some extra work either getting a Match 5 or fire a different power that destroys some tiles. Not horrible but just adds extra time to these sloggy quests.

  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,689 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 10 January 2025, 17:38

    @LavaManLee said:
    His blue is awful for this type of a Quest. You can only fire it if you have the AP and if you have already destroyed some tiles on your turn. So you have to do some extra work either getting a Match 5 or fire a different power that destroys some tiles. Not horrible but just adds extra time to these sloggy quests.

    You can also fire it if Red is set to "Godkiller" (assuming you have at least one red cover,) but not "Grasscutter." Of course, the red quest is specifically for Godkiller, so you want to be a bit judicious with that too.

    I found in PVE MThor and Deathlok helped a lot since MThor destroys tiles every turn (so you can always fire blue,) and Deathlok feeds blue and red.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,117 Chairperson of the Boards

    @LavaManLee said:
    His blue is awful for this type of a Quest. You can only fire it if you have the AP and if you have already destroyed some tiles on your turn. So you have to do some extra work either getting a Match 5 or fire a different power that destroys some tiles. Not horrible but just adds extra time to these sloggy quests.

    His blue is awful, period.

    One of my biggest issues with character design in this game is the box that says "you can't fire this power because it wouldn't do anything."

    This should never happen! Every power should have a fallback effect that does SOMETHING when you cast it.

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,381 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    @LavaManLee said:
    His blue is awful for this type of a Quest. You can only fire it if you have the AP and if you have already destroyed some tiles on your turn. So you have to do some extra work either getting a Match 5 or fire a different power that destroys some tiles. Not horrible but just adds extra time to these sloggy quests.

    His blue is awful, period.

    One of my biggest issues with character design in this game is the box that says "you can't fire this power because it wouldn't do anything."

    Except for 1 star juggernaut, if you try to fire his black with no strike or protect tiles on the board you don't get a box telling you it will do nothing. You just spend the black ap to do nothing.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,493 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 10 January 2025, 18:55

    @GrimSkald said:

    @LavaManLee said:
    His blue is awful for this type of a Quest. You can only fire it if you have the AP and if you have already destroyed some tiles on your turn. So you have to do some extra work either getting a Match 5 or fire a different power that destroys some tiles. Not horrible but just adds extra time to these sloggy quests.

    You can also fire it if Red is set to "Godkiller" (assuming you have at least one red cover,) but not "Grasscutter." Of course, the red quest is specifically for Godkiller, so you want to be a bit judicious with that too.

    I found in PVE MThor and Deathlok helped a lot since MThor destroys tiles every turn (so you can always fire blue,) and Deathlok feeds blue and red.

    It's weird. I switched to MT and Blue can only fires once but any time after that, on different turns, it won't fire and it says "Destroyed Colors: No Color) in the settings. It's like it's not catching the colors for MT destroying it each turn.

  • Timemachinego
    Timemachinego Posts: 518 Critical Contributor

    @LavaManLee said:

    It's weird. I switched to MT and Blue can only fires once but any time after that, on different turns, it won't fire and it says "Destroyed Colors: No Color) in the settings. It's like it's not catching the colors for MT destroying it each turn.

    Could be a positioning/priority issue? Try placing Gorgon ahead of MT in order of actions.

  • Phumade
    Phumade Posts: 2,514 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Zalasta said:

    @KGB said:

    @GrimSkald said:

    @Zalasta said:
    I’m curious. With a secondary feeder only, I am unable to roster him. Who has been able to roster him and start working on the gorgon quests for additional shards? I don’t see any way to reliably roster him until we complete the PvE for rewards, or his store. The PvE won’t give me the 3 covers to run his quests, and the store isn’t until after the quests expire. Not great.

    He was rosterable as of about 7am EST this morning. Search for "Gorgon" and scroll past your empty roster slots, he's down there.

    You will get a loaner for his PVP, too, and that will start Sunday, but if you roster him now you can get a head start. I got two covers (370+280 Silver Samurai,) which kind of sucks, really, but I'll be up to, what, 4ish by the end of his PVE so long as I can do these quests.

    I think he meant that as a secondary feeder that there was < 500 shards available for most of us and so we don't even have enough for 1 cover.

    KGB

    Ummm yea.. I don’t have enough shards for one cover, much less one of each color that I’d need to complete the Gorgon event quests that reward another 750 shards. How am i supposed to obtain those covers before quest ends in six days?

    there should be 5* event with a 1/1/1 loaner. Thats where they intend you to do those quests

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,335 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bluewolf said:
    A reminder that if you have Black Bolt and use his yellow, you unlock all powers for a character as long as you have them rostered and can bring them into the match.

    One of the newly released characters does this now too. For the life of me I can't recall and the search function isn't good enough to find it because there is no word to key on. But this character was released in the last 2-3 months time frame and I recall it being way easier to do than Bolt.

    KGB

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