Greg still killing his own creatures, and pumping his opponents' (2024)

Janosik · July 2024

I think it's time for another one of these threads. Here's the last thread I could find:

https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/87690/

The devs have been very quiet for years about this issue, but looky here, in the 6.7.0.101043 Patch Notes!

https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/90633/patch-notes-6-7-0-101043#latest
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Fixed: Greg targeting itself instead of the player when casting Vampire’s Kiss.

Honestly very happy that Webcore are going to keep an eye on this issue! When Greg stupidly kills his own creatures, it makes the whole game feel much more random and pointless. Creating complex, intelligent AI is of course a hard problem, but when Greg helps me to win the game against him it makes me wonder why I'm even playing at all.

Oktagon's answer to the problem was mostly to make all creature kill spells only affect your opponent's creatures, but that's a poor solution; it's a common issue that when playing the game that you want to kill your own creatures, most often when you're trying to slow yourself down so you don't fail event objectives. Oktagon, of course, being lazy, didn't much care about the experience of the players.

I've noticed Greg targeting himself of his creatures with creature kill or burn spells a fair few times recently, and now I know Webcore are fixing these issues, I think it's time to get a brand new bug thread going on the subject.

Here are creature kills, and other negative cards+effects, which Greg uses on himself or own creatures:
Sugar Coat
Pile On
Unnerving Grasp
Burst Lightning
Come Back Wrong
Hold for Ransom
Taken by Nightmares
Disturbing Conversion
Stab

Another related issue: Greg destroying his own supports with Crystalize. I've seen him do this with both Echoes of Eternity, and with Karn, Reflective Silver's 'Silver Reflection' tokens.

And these are cards with a related issue, where Greg buffs one of his opponent's creatures:
Dinotomaton
Fae Flight
Consuming Aetherborn
Violent Urge
Twinblade Blessing

These effects used to be bugged, but were reported as fixed in Patch 7.0.0.102957:
Fifty feet of Rope
Hell to Pay
Cleaving Skyrider
Black Sun's Twilight
Lochtwain Scorn (flip side of Virtue of Persistence)
Unfortunate Accident
Drag to the Roots
Go for the Throat
Fearless Skald
Fleeting Reflection
Leaping Ambush
Skulduggery
Fungal Fortitude
The planeswalker Liliana of the Dark Realm's second ability ('Dark Consumption')
The planeswalker Koth, Fire of Resistance's second ability ('Snapping Earth')

Janosik · August 2024

Related: Greg destroying his own supports with Crystalize. I've seen him do this with both Echoes of Eternity, and with Karn, Reflective Silver's Silver Reflection tokens.
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Janosik · August 2024

Greg gives Menace to my creatures with Dinomaton
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Janosik · August 2024

Greg casts Fleeting Reflection on my creatures
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BrSchnitz · August 2024

Greg used vanguard Koth's second ability (damage to target creature) to target his own creature.

Mainloop25 · August 2024

Hell To Pay

Janosik · August 2024

Cleaving Skyrider
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Janosik · August 2024

Sugar Coat
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stikxs · August 2024

@Mainloop25 said:
Hell To Pay

Just had a match where not only did Greg use Hell To Pay poorly, I had 3 creatures and he had 1 creature and chose to shoot himself in the face with it lol.

Janosik · August 2024

Black Sun's Twilight
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Janosik · September 2024

Pile On

Leaping Ambush