@DAZ0273 said: @Omegased said: I'm hanging for 4star Moon Knight to feed the most obvious 5star connection, blacksuit spiderman I would wish you well but sadly I need 5* Moon Knight covers to champ him and he has gotta be ripe for a re-balance, eh wot? I am glad I bothered to get that first Colossus cover from Puck, now he can sink to the bottom of obscurity. The change to Negasonic wont greatly benefit me but at least she is alright. The change to Carnage leaves me with a conundrum as he is one cover away from spitting out 250 Doc Ock shards - I don't know whether it is worth spending the resources necessary to try and get 400 shards in 2 days or whether actually I have enough to make it as I did recently have a blitz on my Mighty's and want to horde. checks roster - Doc Ock has 225 shards...gah...this would have been an easier decision if he had like none. Hmm...
@DAZ0273 said:
@Omegased said: I'm hanging for 4star Moon Knight to feed the most obvious 5star connection, blacksuit spiderman
I would wish you well but sadly I need 5* Moon Knight covers to champ him and he has gotta be ripe for a re-balance, eh wot?
I am glad I bothered to get that first Colossus cover from Puck, now he can sink to the bottom of obscurity. The change to Negasonic wont greatly benefit me but at least she is alright. The change to Carnage leaves me with a conundrum as he is one cover away from spitting out 250 Doc Ock shards - I don't know whether it is worth spending the resources necessary to try and get 400 shards in 2 days or whether actually I have enough to make it as I did recently have a blitz on my Mighty's and want to horde. checks roster - Doc Ock has 225 shards...gah...this would have been an easier decision if he had like none. Hmm...
How's your 3* Doc Ock? Close enough to give out any Carnage shards? Otherwise 400 shards in 2 days can be a big ask. 120 Mightys & Heroics + 2 Daily Milestones, and potentially move your 3* Ock far enough to ehlp, or you have to blow through 27 pulls of your LTs/CP, which you may or may not want to do depending on where Chasm is, or if you have any of that hoarded.
@rainkingucd said: @DAZ0273 said: @Omegased said: I'm hanging for 4star Moon Knight to feed the most obvious 5star connection, blacksuit spiderman I would wish you well but sadly I need 5* Moon Knight covers to champ him and he has gotta be ripe for a re-balance, eh wot? I am glad I bothered to get that first Colossus cover from Puck, now he can sink to the bottom of obscurity. The change to Negasonic wont greatly benefit me but at least she is alright. The change to Carnage leaves me with a conundrum as he is one cover away from spitting out 250 Doc Ock shards - I don't know whether it is worth spending the resources necessary to try and get 400 shards in 2 days or whether actually I have enough to make it as I did recently have a blitz on my Mighty's and want to horde. checks roster - Doc Ock has 225 shards...gah...this would have been an easier decision if he had like none. Hmm... How's your 3* Doc Ock? Close enough to give out any Carnage shards? Otherwise 400 shards in 2 days can be a big ask. 120 Mightys & Heroics + 2 Daily Milestones, and potentially move your 3* Ock far enough to ehlp, or you have to blow through 27 pulls of your LTs/CP, which you may or may not want to do depending on where Chasm is, or if you have any of that hoarded.
@rainkingucd said:
3 Ock is max champed with 8 shards and no dupe built. Chasm is champed, She Hulk is champed, so yeah, not too keen on blowing LT/CP. I might just have to give his one up.
@DAZ0273 said: @rainkingucd said: @DAZ0273 said: @Omegased said: I'm hanging for 4star Moon Knight to feed the most obvious 5star connection, blacksuit spiderman I would wish you well but sadly I need 5* Moon Knight covers to champ him and he has gotta be ripe for a re-balance, eh wot? I am glad I bothered to get that first Colossus cover from Puck, now he can sink to the bottom of obscurity. The change to Negasonic wont greatly benefit me but at least she is alright. The change to Carnage leaves me with a conundrum as he is one cover away from spitting out 250 Doc Ock shards - I don't know whether it is worth spending the resources necessary to try and get 400 shards in 2 days or whether actually I have enough to make it as I did recently have a blitz on my Mighty's and want to horde. checks roster - Doc Ock has 225 shards...gah...this would have been an easier decision if he had like none. Hmm... How's your 3* Doc Ock? Close enough to give out any Carnage shards? Otherwise 400 shards in 2 days can be a big ask. 120 Mightys & Heroics + 2 Daily Milestones, and potentially move your 3* Ock far enough to ehlp, or you have to blow through 27 pulls of your LTs/CP, which you may or may not want to do depending on where Chasm is, or if you have any of that hoarded. 3 Ock is max champed with 8 shards and no dupe built. Chasm is champed, She Hulk is champed, so yeah, not too keen on blowing LT/CP. I might just have to give his one up.
I’m in the same situation. I have been working on 3* Doc and 4* Carnage for the final cover for 5* Doc. I am going to miss by three 4* covers.
If you got a decent chunk of CP, then throw it into classic legends and hope for the best. You may get lucky with bonus shards once or twice. That 250 shards for a 5* is way more pulls than 400 for a 4*. 5* Doc Ock is not a terrible 5* either.
I was thinking about 5* Dr Ock because I'm close to champing him as well. In the end, I asked myself, "Am I going to use him after I've champed him?" I answered "No." After 5* Dr Ock gets his new feeder, I'll still be able to cover him. I still won't use him in the future unless there are really interesting synergy with his power.
I’m sure Doc Ock is fine, but I found him way more interesting pre-rebalance I guess years ago at this point lol. I think in this modern game, a character who starts taking auto-turns while stunned would have a lot more legs than it did back when that change got made. And I know his green went away from total match auto win almost immediately, but that was fun to me. I champed mine awhile back and I don’t think I’ve used him at all.
I do agree the old Dr Ock has interesting and unique abilities that none of the characters has, except for his black. If he had the old abilities, I would go for it.
@Bubba3210 said: @DAZ0273 said: @rainkingucd said: @DAZ0273 said: @Omegased said: I'm hanging for 4star Moon Knight to feed the most obvious 5star connection, blacksuit spiderman I would wish you well but sadly I need 5* Moon Knight covers to champ him and he has gotta be ripe for a re-balance, eh wot? I am glad I bothered to get that first Colossus cover from Puck, now he can sink to the bottom of obscurity. The change to Negasonic wont greatly benefit me but at least she is alright. The change to Carnage leaves me with a conundrum as he is one cover away from spitting out 250 Doc Ock shards - I don't know whether it is worth spending the resources necessary to try and get 400 shards in 2 days or whether actually I have enough to make it as I did recently have a blitz on my Mighty's and want to horde. checks roster - Doc Ock has 225 shards...gah...this would have been an easier decision if he had like none. Hmm... How's your 3* Doc Ock? Close enough to give out any Carnage shards? Otherwise 400 shards in 2 days can be a big ask. 120 Mightys & Heroics + 2 Daily Milestones, and potentially move your 3* Ock far enough to ehlp, or you have to blow through 27 pulls of your LTs/CP, which you may or may not want to do depending on where Chasm is, or if you have any of that hoarded. 3 Ock is max champed with 8 shards and no dupe built. Chasm is champed, She Hulk is champed, so yeah, not too keen on blowing LT/CP. I might just have to give his one up. I’m in the same situation. I have been working on 3* Doc and 4* Carnage for the final cover for 5* Doc. I am going to miss by three 4* covers.
@Bubba3210 said:
Good news is that with the feeder updates, 4* Doc Ock will almost certainly be updated to feed 5* Doc Ock. How's your 4* Ock look? If they continue on the retro rewards path, should be champed by Christmas!
With all these shards you are really spoiling us!
What are we calling this round after Shardmas and Shardsgiving?? Is this Shardsgiving Second Helpings? We are going to run out of pithy names quickly which is going to be a real problem and there may be complaints...
@Punter1 said: With all these shards you are really spoiling us! What are we calling this round after Shardmas and Shardsgiving?? Is this Shardsgiving Second Helpings? We are going to run out of pithy names quickly which is going to be a real problem and there may be complaints...
@Punter1 said: With all these shards you are really spoiling us!
Shards Friday? St. Shardsolas Day? Shardsgiving Leftovers? Cyber Shardsday?
My 4* Ock is over level 300. I’m really enjoying the game more and more because I can see progress. It does make for unpredictable planning. I love planning as much as I love playing.
@rainkingucd said: @Punter1 said: With all these shards you are really spoiling us! What are we calling this round after Shardmas and Shardsgiving?? Is this Shardsgiving Second Helpings? We are going to run out of pithy names quickly which is going to be a real problem and there may be complaints... Shards Friday? St. Shardsolas Day? Shardsgiving Leftovers? Cyber Shardsday?
OK - phew - these champion updates may continue.
"It's true we've had shardsgiving, yes but we haven't had second shardsgiving"
"Oh, I don't think he's heard of second shardsgiving"
@meadowsweet said: @GrimSkald said: I'm not sure I quite get why you're removing feeders, since double feeders are a thing I suspect that double-feeders may only be temporary while they swap in a new feeder before removing the old feeder, as happened with Jean Grey (Phoenix) recently. They added Jean Grey (All New X-Men) as a feeder in late September - making her a double feeder - before removing Jubilee as a feeder in late November.
@meadowsweet said:
@GrimSkald said: I'm not sure I quite get why you're removing feeders, since double feeders are a thing
I suspect that double-feeders may only be temporary while they swap in a new feeder before removing the old feeder, as happened with Jean Grey (Phoenix) recently. They added Jean Grey (All New X-Men) as a feeder in late September - making her a double feeder - before removing Jubilee as a feeder in late November.
Maaaaybe? Let's look at who will be a double feeder after Friday, I'll start with the ones most likely to change:
Knull - Fed by Rhino and Eddie Brock Carnage - Fed by Carnage and Scorpion
Both of the older feeders can be broken away to feed other Spider-Verse characters such as Electro (since Doc Ock needs a feeder and will probably feed himself,) and Chasm, but those two are it for Spider-Verse at the moment without feeders. They can absolutely remove feeders, but none fit better than others, IMHO, in these cases. In all of these the only connection is through teams, there's nothing strong like love interest, nemesis, or same character.
Some more:
Cyclops - Echo and Cyclops Cable - Bishop and Deathlok Kitty - Kate and Doop Okoye - Shuri and Namora
In all these cases the characters are pretty good fits. Well, maybe not Deathlok, but he is a cyborg so there's that cosmetic connection, which is as good as many others. What's more, it was just established, so there's that. I honestly think the above connections aren't going anywhere - having double feeders doesn't really hurt the game, I think, it just makes 5* characters more available.
Man, before all these retroactive updates I was just a couple of toons away from being post-iso. Come on. (Sarcasm)
@GrimSkald said: @meadowsweet said: @GrimSkald said: I'm not sure I quite get why you're removing feeders, since double feeders are a thing I suspect that double-feeders may only be temporary while they swap in a new feeder before removing the old feeder, as happened with Jean Grey (Phoenix) recently. They added Jean Grey (All New X-Men) as a feeder in late September - making her a double feeder - before removing Jubilee as a feeder in late November. Maaaaybe? Let's look at who will be a double feeder after Friday, I'll start with the ones most likely to change: Knull - Fed by Rhino and Eddie Brock Carnage - Fed by Carnage and Scorpion Both of the older feeders can be broken away to feed other Spider-Verse characters such as Electro (since Doc Ock needs a feeder and will probably feed himself,) and Chasm, but those two are it for Spider-Verse at the moment without feeders. They can absolutely remove feeders, but none fit better than others, IMHO, in these cases. In all of these the only connection is through teams, there's nothing strong like love interest, nemesis, or same character. Some more: Cyclops - Echo and Cyclops Cable - Bishop and Deathlok Kitty - Kate and Doop Okoye - Shuri and Namora In all these cases the characters are pretty good fits. Well, maybe not Deathlok, but he is a cyborg so there's that cosmetic connection, which is as good as many others. What's more, it was just established, so there's that. I honestly think the above connections aren't going anywhere - having double feeders doesn't really hurt the game, I think, it just makes 5* characters more available.
@GrimSkald said:
I think you forgot Storm. Maybe others
@killahKlown said: @GrimSkald said: @meadowsweet said: @GrimSkald said: I'm not sure I quite get why you're removing feeders, since double feeders are a thing I suspect that double-feeders may only be temporary while they swap in a new feeder before removing the old feeder, as happened with Jean Grey (Phoenix) recently. They added Jean Grey (All New X-Men) as a feeder in late September - making her a double feeder - before removing Jubilee as a feeder in late November. Maaaaybe? Let's look at who will be a double feeder after Friday, I'll start with the ones most likely to change: Knull - Fed by Rhino and Eddie Brock Carnage - Fed by Carnage and Scorpion Both of the older feeders can be broken away to feed other Spider-Verse characters such as Electro (since Doc Ock needs a feeder and will probably feed himself,) and Chasm, but those two are it for Spider-Verse at the moment without feeders. They can absolutely remove feeders, but none fit better than others, IMHO, in these cases. In all of these the only connection is through teams, there's nothing strong like love interest, nemesis, or same character. Some more: Cyclops - Echo and Cyclops Cable - Bishop and Deathlok Kitty - Kate and Doop Okoye - Shuri and Namora In all these cases the characters are pretty good fits. Well, maybe not Deathlok, but he is a cyborg so there's that cosmetic connection, which is as good as many others. What's more, it was just established, so there's that. I honestly think the above connections aren't going anywhere - having double feeders doesn't really hurt the game, I think, it just makes 5* characters more available. I think you forgot Storm. Maybe others
@killahKlown said:
Storm is the only other, currently. The obvious assumption is that 4JaneThor will be changed to feed 5JaneThor.
@GrimSkald said: @meadowsweet said: @GrimSkald said: I'm not sure I quite get why you're removing feeders, since double feeders are a thing I suspect that double-feeders may only be temporary while they swap in a new feeder before removing the old feeder, as happened with Jean Grey (Phoenix) recently. They added Jean Grey (All New X-Men) as a feeder in late September - making her a double feeder - before removing Jubilee as a feeder in late November. Both of the older feeders can be broken away to feed other Spider-Verse characters such as Electro (since Doc Ock needs a feeder and will probably feed himself,) and Chasm, but those two are it for Spider-Verse at the moment without feeders. They can absolutely remove feeders, but none fit better than others, IMHO, in these cases. In all of these the only connection is through teams, there's nothing strong like love interest, nemesis, or same character.
There's also Big Wheel. Prowler may make sense as that feeder.
@skittledaddy said: @killahKlown said: @GrimSkald said: @meadowsweet said: @GrimSkald said: I'm not sure I quite get why you're removing feeders, since double feeders are a thing I suspect that double-feeders may only be temporary while they swap in a new feeder before removing the old feeder, as happened with Jean Grey (Phoenix) recently. They added Jean Grey (All New X-Men) as a feeder in late September - making her a double feeder - before removing Jubilee as a feeder in late November. Maaaaybe? Let's look at who will be a double feeder after Friday, I'll start with the ones most likely to change: Knull - Fed by Rhino and Eddie Brock Carnage - Fed by Carnage and Scorpion Both of the older feeders can be broken away to feed other Spider-Verse characters such as Electro (since Doc Ock needs a feeder and will probably feed himself,) and Chasm, but those two are it for Spider-Verse at the moment without feeders. They can absolutely remove feeders, but none fit better than others, IMHO, in these cases. In all of these the only connection is through teams, there's nothing strong like love interest, nemesis, or same character. Some more: Cyclops - Echo and Cyclops Cable - Bishop and Deathlok Kitty - Kate and Doop Okoye - Shuri and Namora In all these cases the characters are pretty good fits. Well, maybe not Deathlok, but he is a cyborg so there's that cosmetic connection, which is as good as many others. What's more, it was just established, so there's that. I honestly think the above connections aren't going anywhere - having double feeders doesn't really hurt the game, I think, it just makes 5* characters more available. I think you forgot Storm. Maybe others Storm is the only other, currently. The obvious assumption is that 4JaneThor will be changed to feed 5JaneThor.
@skittledaddy said:
I did forget Storm, nearly entirely. I was in a hotel in Syracuse when the changes came through, and since they didn't announce very much before hand it was a complete surprise when I opened the game on my phone.
OTOH it's pretty obvious that she belongs in the first group as sooner or later we can probably expect Jane to feed Jane.
Also, yes, I did forget Big wheel, but since both Lizard and Prowler don't feed anyone hopefully they'll leave a double feeder or two.
5* Elektra is far from my favorite character and I've never prioritized her, but I think I'm going to end up very nearly champing her with this update. Nice!!