Razia Damage Trigger + Summoner’s Pact [Investigating]

jtwoodjtwood Posts: 1,041 Chairperson of the Boards
Razia just stopped triggering off of Summoner’s Pact damage.

She still triggers when an opponent’s source causes damage. 

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  • Oktagon_SupportOktagon_Support ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 2,284 Chairperson of the Boards

    Hello @jtwood ,

    Thank you for all the information provided, this issue will be investigated!
    If you have any additional information that you consider relevant, please don't hesitate to send me.

    Rebeca.


  • TheophilusTheophilus Posts: 106 Tile Toppler
    I had Razia in the final match of AWR this past weekend with Karn as my PW. When I would use Karn's 1st, I would get 3 damage (x2) from the exiled cards and perm support, but no Razia damage was inflicted on the opponent. Maybe these two issues are related.
  • jtwoodjtwood Posts: 1,041 Chairperson of the Boards
    I had Razia in the final match of AWR this past weekend with Karn as my PW. When I would use Karn's 1st, I would get 3 damage (x2) from the exiled cards and perm support, but no Razia damage was inflicted on the opponent. Maybe these two issues are related.
    Ew that’s no good. That’s from the permanent support, right? And that’s in Greg’s control, isn’t it?
  • ambrosio191ambrosio191 Posts: 230 Tile Toppler
    When I first got Razia I tried making a deck with with Final Payment (destroy target creature, you lose 4 life) as one of the kill spells.  It never trigger Razia so I figured at the time there was a distinction between lose of life and damage.  Clearly that was incorrect at the time, because Summoner's Pact is also lose of life, not damage, and it would trigger Razia.  AWR 2.3 is also a lose of life trigger, not damage, so it's at least consistent right now, but not in the past.  Without knowing if there is a difference between the two wordings as far as damage triggers, it's hard to tell what's a bug and what's intended.
  • TheophilusTheophilus Posts: 106 Tile Toppler
    jtwood said:Ew  that’s no good. That’s from the permanent support, right? And that’s in Greg’s control, isn’t it?
    I don't recall the exact wording of the perm support, but it causes 3 damage to you anytime one of your cards is exiled. Maybe I misunderstand the question. I haven't had my coffee yet. 
    Without knowing if there is a difference between the two wordings as far as damage triggers, it's hard to tell what's a bug and what's intended.
    I wonder how often a bug is reclassified as "working as intended" simply because they have neither the time nor the desire to fix it. 
  • ambrosio191ambrosio191 Posts: 230 Tile Toppler
    Based on the 5.2.0 Pre-Release notes:
    • Fixes:

    • Fixed the issue where the Battle Log did not differ deal damage from lose life.
    I'm going to go out on a limb and say there is difference between deal damage and lose of life, and Razia no longer getting triggered by Summoner's Pact is a result of that difference.


  • jtwoodjtwood Posts: 1,041 Chairperson of the Boards
    Based on the 5.2.0 Pre-Release notes:
    • Fixes:

    • Fixed the issue where the Battle Log did not differ deal damage from lose life.
    I'm going to go out on a limb and say there is difference between deal damage and lose of life, and Razia no longer getting triggered by Summoner's Pact is a result of that difference.



    Nearly-impolite rant: I really do hate it when we have to find out about these changes after the fact. Changes this dramatic should not be Advanced Puzzles.
  • TheophilusTheophilus Posts: 106 Tile Toppler
    Sometimes I wonder if these are actual changes or unintentional results from other changes. They have no desire to correct them, so they just issue it as "working as intended" or some sort of change/update.
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