Finale of Revelation doesn't give extra Mana since 3.7

Panneo
Panneo Posts: 23 Just Dropped In
Finale of Revelation didn't gave extra mana with 10 Mana stored and the Blue-Mana-Bonus wasn't improve as well.I tested it 2 times.

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  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    Thats the blue one?  I think you need full stored mana (12) for that to trigger.
    Its very poorly worded, but it seems X is stored/2 so you need 12 stored for X=6

    I don't have it personally, but there's been a lot of chatter about it in my coalition recently.
  • chaosascends
    chaosascends Posts: 16 Just Dropped In
    Pre-3.7, if you had 6 or more stored mana, it's secondary effects would take effect. Since 3.7, this now requires full mana, which is *NOT* what is written on the card description. This should be considered a bug.
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    Pre-3.7, if you had 6 or more stored mana, it's secondary effects would take effect. Since 3.7, this now requires full mana, which is *NOT* what is written on the card description. This should be considered a bug.
    On the English cards at least it is in fact what is written on the card.  Again, it is written very poorly and confusingly, but it is written like that.  Like I said, there was a lot of argument and discussion on this this week in my coalition.

    Card reads "Draw X cards, where X is this card's Stored Mana divided by 2, rounded up. Then, exile this card. If X is 6 or more, those cards gain half of their mana and your Blue mana bonus is increased by 1"
    (thanks as always to Octal and mtgpq.info)

    The key is the first line where it says X is stored mana divided by 2.  That X is different from the stored mana X (again, poor design), but its the one used for the rest of the card.  Therefore you need stored mana of 12 for X to be 6.
  • chaosascends
    chaosascends Posts: 16 Just Dropped In
    Mburn7 said:
    Pre-3.7, if you had 6 or more stored mana, it's secondary effects would take effect. Since 3.7, this now requires full mana, which is *NOT* what is written on the card description. This should be considered a bug.
    On the English cards at least it is in fact what is written on the card.  Again, it is written very poorly and confusingly, but it is written like that.  Like I said, there was a lot of argument and discussion on this this week in my coalition.

    Card reads "Draw X cards, where X is this card's Stored Mana divided by 2, rounded up. Then, exile this card. If X is 6 or more, those cards gain half of their mana and your Blue mana bonus is increased by 1"
    (thanks as always to Octal and mtgpq.info)

    The key is the first line where it says X is stored mana divided by 2.  That X is different from the stored mana X (again, poor design), but its the one used for the rest of the card.  Therefore you need stored mana of 12 for X to be 6.
    So stored mana should be 11 or 12? Has anyone tested if stored mana of 11 works? Also, it seems that since 3.7, the card is disabled if there's not enough space to draw cards, whereas pre-3.7, it would execute, drawing 1 card (and the secondary effects if enough mana was stored).
  • Panneo
    Panneo Posts: 23 Just Dropped In
    Thank you for the info. I would have never thought off this.
  • mindtap
    mindtap Posts: 5 Just Dropped In
    The card should be worded "Draw a number of cards equal to half X, rounded up. If X is equal to 12, then those cards gain half of their mana rounded down, and increase your Blue mana bonus by 1. Exile this card."