The Grand Experiment: Can you transition to 5*s pulling as you go as a progession-only F2P player?

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  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    over the weekend i got back to back greens for Carnage (3/0/3) and a green for BRB (1/1/2) this morning. I'm also 1 Shuri and 1 Hulkbuster away from having a champ-able Okoye and Rescue. 

    Now it's time to decide where to park my 5* Shard Target. Do I go for someone close to champable but not especially powerful, like:
    Fi5k (5/4/3) - Miles @ 293
    Hela (5/2/4) - Magik @ 278
    Cable (2/4/5) - Cyclops @ 291
    Danver5 (5/2/3) - C4rol @ 301
    Lumbercap (2/4/4) - Bucky @ 290

    Or someone meta-adjace that's reasonably champ-able in the form of 
    Hawkeye (2/5/3) - Kate Bishop @ 286

    OR do I just take the long road and go after a playable Thor or Kitty?
    Kitty: (3/2/0) Frost @ 295
    Thor: (2/0/2) Valkyrie @ 283

    I'm leaning towards Hawkeye or Kitty right now. I just organically got the last cover I need to become part of the WCap problem, waiting on iso to champ him from 209. I may just sink iso into Hawkeye and take him from 372 to 405, and see if that team just kind of plays like it is.

    For Kitty, I have a functional 4ocket at 305, and assuming I finish Carnage and BRB, some 5* special spammers in the hopper that would benefit from her. She is likely going to be increasingly and incrementally useful as covers get added and she gets leveled to match.

    Thor is going to continue warming the bench until possibly 2 greens where the tile break increases to 4, but definitely 3 greens when his board shake reaches it's full potential.

    Anyone have any advice?


  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    Given the timescales involved in chasing all these characters, do I actually *need* a champion Thor to do what I need him to do, or can I stop at 5/0/2 and move on? 
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    I think what I'm going to do is park my 5* on Gladiathor, then move my 4* to emma for the next 5 levels to get her to 300, then I'll go all-in on Valkyrie. Didn't see this Code Red vault coming at all - what an opportune thing. I was able to pull 4x times in there, got a hammond torch, a juggs champ level, a support token good for a dupe 1* tinkerer, and a mighty token good for an iso champ level on Magnet3o. I should have 1 more pull at least in there before it goes away; wonder if i'll land the hulkbuster or a shard slug on Okoye?
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    OJSP said:For offense, even a 5/0/0 Thor works fine (like Gambatt lol). However, like any unchamped 5*s, he will paint a target on your back. His low health will make him very susceptible to AoEs.
    This sounds like a job for a fast climb, leave out an annoying defense team strategy i guess lol. 

    I don't think I could swap out for a 450 Jessica Jones/274 Bishop and have it override a 451 Okoye/315 Thor, so it would probably have to be Iceman/X I guess? 
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    Champed WCap this morning, got another Profe$$or X champ level for my trouble. Then took a few more pulls out of the Code Red vault and got 100 shards for Okoye and the 300th hulkbuster i needed to finish Rescue.
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2020
    6 are actually champed:
    Professor X
    Jessica Jones
    God Emperor Doom
    Storm
    Ghost Rider (Robbie Reyes)
    Iceman

    but about 3,000 iso from now I'll have 7 with Rescue. then in another week or so I'll have gotten that final Shuri cover to finish Okoye, who is parked at lvl 435. After that, the road gets a little longer for shard targeting Classics, but it seeeeeeems like I'm on track to stay current with Carbage (3/0/3) and BRB (1/1/2) moving forward.

    Fi5k, even being trash tier, is only 7 miles morales covers from done, so I may park my 3* shard target on Spid3r-Man for awhile and just get it when it shows up rather than trying with any particular effort to chase him. I ended up parking my 5* target on Gladiator Thor for now. What to do with my 4* shard is then up in the air after Shuri is done.
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    Rescue is champed now.
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    #2 is largely my plan - it seems like the most reliable way to move forward considering my general play style and habits. 

    I think the refinement to that strategy I'm not 100% sure about is the relative value of finishing up sub-optimal, but nearly finished, characters like Fi5k, Cable, Hawkeye, Danver5, or Hela vs just taking the long road of chasing the really good ones like Thor and/or Kitty.

    The Quantity of my bench short-term vs the Quality of my bench long term. I'm thinking that the longer I push off chasing one of them, at some point I'll decide I should have started doing it forever ago I'm sure (I almost certainly should have just chased Okoye all last year directly vs Jessica Jones, but then again  having a near-max Chavez to pair with my otherwise lame 5*s helped out a bunch, so that part of the strategy turned out well). 

    While I'm on Thor for now, I'm still very torn as to whether or not Kitty isn't likely to be the better choice considering the general trend of specials-based new releases that have been coming out.
  • Daredevil217Daredevil217 Posts: 3,000 Chairperson of the Boards
    My vote would still be for Thor. 

    1- He‘s my go-to in the 5* essential node. 

    2- Thorkoye can still smack teams like 40 levels higher than them on offense.

    3- Valkyrie is better than Emma (but you really probably won’t use either over 5* options). 

    4- While his best option is clearly Okoye; he can fuel any RGY user. 

    5- While trash on defense it’s still the fastest team on hops. 

    Kitty is paired with Grocket 99% of the time. I’ve heard of the Kitty/Bill/Carbage team in Sim; but having not faced it yet, I’d find it shocking if Thorkoye/Professor couldn’t make light work of that trio. One thing Gritty does way better at is defense. That said, Bishop has usurped them as the go-to shield. I was playing Lightning Rounds and every single team was Bish/Jess or Bish/Bill. I remember being one of the only playing Bish/Jess when everyone was playing Gritty. Now it’s getting much harder to find a Gritty to hit and I actively seek them out. All that to say they are not the defensive team they once were. 

    One thing to consider though, with the talk of rebalances; I’d have to imagine Bishop will be the first one looked at. I imagine  they will nerf him so he’s no longer meta; which would put Gritty back in the drivers seat as the best defense in pick 2. No one knows how long that will be though and the reality is, people have found ways to deal with that team. IF Bish is nerfed you’ll be happy you have Thorkoye who can eat through Gritty teams often without needing a health pack. 
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm not chasing Bishop for his own sake for sure.

    BRB is actually really good, for the AP gain you get off his Protect spam being destroyed rather than that spam existing for its own sake. Even at 1/1/2 he is very effective at kick-starting the Okoye/Rescue multi-tap attack, though having a 452 Rescue and an un-champed Okoye means that i'm struggling to stay flush with Team Up right now.

    And Carbage is actually super wild when you put him in the mix with Kitty. I'm curious if Thorkoye would get it done - my current counter to it is more of a surgical strike, trying to not match any of the specials and stun them with somebody. I may be taking the wrong approach - If my DD5 were better that's probably the move. Rescue/Bishop can do it also. I don't know, that's a novel team but I doubt it's The New Gritty or anything.
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2020
    I'm now 10 Shuri Shards away from a completed Okoye. It occurs to me the 11 champ levels I have on Profe$$or X would have been 11 covers for Mr. Sinister had I left off of pulling after covering him, so I'm going to sit tight on spending any further until he leaves latest, and hopefully take this lesson to heart lol.

    I'm pretty hooked on Okoye/Profe$$or X and Doom/Profe$$or X these days. Sometimes I run Iceman/X or ice-koye. I keep feeling like WCap should be better with Rescue than he is, which is to say not good at all; I was so sure flooding the board with red/blue would be what the dr ordered to jumpstart, but i guess his baby champ health pool is just too low.
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    Okoye is now completed. Just need around 50k more iso to champ her. I moved my 4* bh to Valkyrie, currently at 283, and my 5* has been on Gladiathor. I'm leaving my 3* on Spid3r-Man for now to get Fi5k the long way. Still not sure I shouldn't be chasing somebody nearer to finished than this, but for now this is the plan.
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    Okoye is champed, and I'm all in on Valkyrie/Thor now for shard targeting. I've started saving up pulls in advance of Mr. Sinister, so I have now 3 LTs and 50-ish cp in the bank. Curious how far that will grow by the time he lands in Latest (still have the 35 sitting in the final Webbed Wonder sub to grind, and 10 from the Mystique PVP). 

    Also I got a green Black Bolt (4/2/1) from daily rewards the other day, and I have my first yellow 5trange coming in 4 days for his own 4/2/1 build. 
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    So I have a decision: 250cp for this final Fi5k cover out of HFH, or just keep saving up till Profe$$or X leaves?
  • TPF AlexisTPF Alexis Posts: 3,813 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'd leave Fi5k to Spid3y, myself. I'm actually really looking forward to pulling for Carnage/Bill/Sinister, tho, so there is a definite bias there.
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    I mean obviously he isn’t “worth it,” but being the character that started this thread it feels tempting to close the loop. I’m going to try and stay strong lol
  • TPF AlexisTPF Alexis Posts: 3,813 Chairperson of the Boards
    Good point. I'd have trouble resisting in that situation, too.
  • DAZ0273DAZ0273 Posts: 4,850 Chairperson of the Boards
    I mean obviously he isn’t “worth it,” but being the character that started this thread it feels tempting to close the loop. I’m going to try and stay strong lol

    If it wasn't 250 CP I could totally see you going for it. I mean I have never come across a player here who enjoys using the trash tier characters of this game like you do! You deserve some sort of reward - like a free Fi5k cover!
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 5,123 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2020
    I believe every Magikarp has a lurking Gyardos in them someplace lol. It's just so hard to imagine a character that's so obviously trash coming out like that on purpose, but it seems to happen fairly often.

    Who is he supposed to be played with? How is he supposed to be played? Maybe I'll finish Carbage/BRB and he'll make more sense. 

    I have a 3* Kull Obsidian at 150 I just added to him, that increases his green damage by 84 and has a ~11% chance to create a protect tile at the start of every turn. That actually seems better for him than the Vanessa Fisk one that just messes with the strength of enemy specials every turn.
  • TPF AlexisTPF Alexis Posts: 3,813 Chairperson of the Boards
    I actually had quite a bit of fun with him along with Grockitty in TAT, and that was only at 5/1/3. He complements her colours perfectly, and his green sets up recurring damage, which Kitty always likes. Giving away a special with his blue will get Circuit Breaker going. Use it right after her yellow or his green, and you'll have a fairly minor tile to give away, that'll turn into 13K+ damage in another Turn.
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