Plague Wind doesn't destroy creatures with prevent damage, might affect all 'destroy'[Fixed in 2.9]

joerginger
joerginger Posts: 198 Tile Toppler
edited October 2018 in MtGPQ Bugs & Technical Issues
Just like Transmogrifying Wand, Plague Wind cannot deal with indestructible creatures. If the opponent has an indestructible plant token or an ox that gained 'indestructible', said creature remains unaffected and only the other two creatures are destroyed.
Both the ox and the plant are tokens, so I haven't been able to test if it's the same against a proper creature.

Btw, Bolas' first ability can still destroy those indestructible creatures. Perhaps the same thing happened again as in every other expansion and 'destroy' cards/effects from M19 don't really destroy, but try to deal damage to indestructible creatures.

//Edited title - Brigby
//Edited Title - BK

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  • Hateborn
    Hateborn Posts: 37 Just Dropped In
    I believe you mean "Creatures with 'Prevent Damage'" since Indestructible isn't a keyword in MTGPQ and the way it works in paper MTG would actually prevent the destroy triggers from working in the first place.
  • DBJones
    DBJones Posts: 803 Critical Contributor
    Thud also doesn't destroy creatures with Prevent Damage. I was only using it to repeatedly throw Darigaaz into the graveyard, basically for fun, but it did the damage without destroying him when he had Prevent Damage because of one of the Dragon War abilities. The higher left node using your Planeswalker's second ability gives all your creatures berserker, trample, and Prevent Damage.
  • Enygma6
    Enygma6 Posts: 266 Mover and Shaker
    I think Take Vengeance is working properly on Prevent Damage creatures.  Will need to re-test it to be certain.
  • joerginger
    joerginger Posts: 198 Tile Toppler

    Yes, thanks, the proper term is Prevent Damage. But the issue remains the same - "Destroy" is not supposed to deal damage that can then be prevented, it should simply move the creature to the graveyard. It works absolutely fine with older cards like Unholy Hunger or Lethal Sting.
  • Bil
    Bil Posts: 831 Critical Contributor
       In paper magic, indestructible creatures cannot be destroyed by spells, they just suffer from the -x/-x, bounce or exile effects.
       However, i think that would be a terrible mechanic to implement in mtgpq, i really hope it's a bug ... With Vivien's ultimate lurking around ...
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    This is an old bug that has always been lurking around.  It appears each new card needs to be individually programmed to work properly.

    For those that are wondering, it has been confirmed multiple times by the devs that "prevent damage" is NOT supposed to give an immunity to removal spells, even though in Origins it originally did.  That's most likely the cause of the bug, since the base code of the game keeps the immunity in.
  • Tombstone
    Tombstone ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 1,208 Chairperson of the Boards
    Hi all, I have passed the information regarding the cards you all had mentioned to the team for investigation. 
  • ringswraith
    ringswraith Posts: 9 Just Dropped In
    Hello. I found another instance of this tonight while doing Training Grounds.

    Lich's Caress failed to destroy a Karn's Minor Construct Token (from Karn's 3rd ability) while there were 3 supports on Karn's side (thus giving the token Prevent Damage). 
  • TheExaminer
    TheExaminer Posts: 94 Match Maker
    Just played against someone with Adamant Will in their deck. Murder killed Adamant'ed creature with no problems, but Plague Wind, on the other hand, failed.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Just Dropped In
    This is a known issue and there is an older post about it i believe. Thus, it is already being "investigated" and present on the big list, i believe
  • TheExaminer
    TheExaminer Posts: 94 Match Maker
    jimpark said:
    This is a known issue and there is an older post about it i believe. Thus, it is already being "investigated" and present on the big list, i believe
    Waiting for mod to merge topics then. I dont read this subforum a lot and I cannot possibly know about every issue discussed here :)
  • Tombstone
    Tombstone ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 1,208 Chairperson of the Boards
    *Merged similar threads
  • Stormcrow
    Stormcrow Posts: 462 Mover and Shaker
    Just to add another one to this list: Golden Guardian's activated effect (Kill the Guardian token and the first other creature you control, flip the support) does not kill the first other creature you control if that creature has prevent damage (for example, the golem from Karn's 3rd ability).

    Pretty minor, really, but it's the same old "destroy effects vs. creatures with prevent damage" bug that's been around and recurring since the beginning of the game.

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