Vhailorx said: I dont know that you are wrong about the monetary concerns chinch and sinner, but i think we should also remember that they made the 4* covers available to all ranks. That great availability may also explain the reduced rotation speed. They may have been concerned that guaranteed covers for 3.6k each would be too much of an early advantage for new whales. In 50 days they could roster the whole 4* tier and play every essential.
sinnerjfl said: MissChinch said: I don't think it's a money grab, it's more a move to preserve an exploitable scarcity of retired 4* covers. Covering them with 3600HP is somewhere between $25-$50. Covering them with CP is $100 with optimal buy clubs, around $1800 without buy clubs. Seems like someone didn't want to sell that scarcity away at ~$30 a pop as quickly as they were. Ding ding ding! That's the only logical conclusion I can come up with as well.3600 HP is too cheap for a single 4* cover in the eyes of D3/DU, you're reading that right.Someone thought "omg were losing revenue with this incredible deal in the HfH store, we better slow down the flow of those insanely cheap covers so that people lose patience and spend even more to acquire CP instead!"And let's disguise this change by saying its to help people complete the Crash... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.*SIGH*
MissChinch said: I don't think it's a money grab, it's more a move to preserve an exploitable scarcity of retired 4* covers. Covering them with 3600HP is somewhere between $25-$50. Covering them with CP is $100 with optimal buy clubs, around $1800 without buy clubs. Seems like someone didn't want to sell that scarcity away at ~$30 a pop as quickly as they were.
Vhailorx said: i think we should also remember that they made the 4* covers available to all ranks.
DarthDeVo said: Wow, I'm typically a rather reserved person and not prone to outbursts. NoBut good gravy, this has to be one of the DUMBEST decisions made for this game lately, and that's a pretty impressive feat.Seriously, who was asking for this? Who concluded that this would be a good idea at all? More than two years to go from Hulkbuster red to Kate Bishop purple, with characters being added all the time? I absolutely cannot comprehend who came up with such a terrible idea. Although if you guys keep making decisions like this, I doubt the game will be around in two years, so it's kind of a moot point.I've been patiently waiting for a Spider-Gwen red, then possibly a Peggy blue and a Drax red. I guess maybe I'll get the Spider-Gwen red, but looks like I'll be counting on 3* champ rewards for everything else.Seriously, why do I still buy VIP when you guys constantly come up with more ways to poke us in the eye? Looks like I might be saving myself $10 a month soon.
orbitalint said: Vhailorx said: i think we should also remember that they made the 4* covers available to all ranks. This is the part that makes me SMH. SCL was supposed to be a way to help provide rewards to people proportionate to where they were I'm the game. While I didn't like HfH, it at least vaguely stuck to this mechanic. This change implies to me that they need to convert newer players to the 4* transition because they never make it there naturally given how the game is constructed currently. And to do it, they have to ratchet down 4* the flow for everyone else above SCL6(?) that actually could use it as is. Guess the whale money it's drying up and there aren't enough active players at that level to justify it anymore, otherwise, this wouldn't have been done.Another sign the wheels are falling off this one. If you have to throw design out the window to try and get more people hooked on your profitable tier of character, you did it wrong. Stop treating the symptom of your business woes, treat the cause...a poorly implemented shell of a formerly great idea of a game. That's why people have stopped paying for your product, not these gimmick stores.
DarthDeVo said: Wow, I'm typically a rather reserved person and not prone to outbursts.But good gravy, this has to be one of the DUMBEST decisions made for this game lately, and that's a pretty impressive feat.Seriously, who was asking for this? Who concluded that this would be a good idea at all? More than two years to go from Hulkbuster red to Kate Bishop purple, with characters being added all the time? I absolutely cannot comprehend who came up with such a terrible idea. Although if you guys keep making decisions like this, I doubt the game will be around in two years, so it's kind of a moot point.I've been patiently waiting for a Spider-Gwen red, then possibly a Peggy blue and a Drax red. I guess maybe I'll get the Spider-Gwen red, but looks like I'll be counting on 3* champ rewards for everything else.Seriously, why do I still buy VIP when you guys constantly come up with more ways to poke us in the eye? Looks like I might be saving myself $10 a month soon.
MissChinch said: Vhailorx said: I dont know that you are wrong about the monetary concerns chinch and sinner, but i think we should also remember that they made the 4* covers available to all ranks. That great availability may also explain the reduced rotation speed. They may have been concerned that guaranteed covers for 3.6k each would be too much of an early advantage for new whales. In 50 days they could roster the whole 4* tier and play every essential. I don't think I'm quite connecting all the dots with this just yet, not to say you might not be right...It may also be that I haven't quite been able to twist my thinking around to sufficiently emulate whatever is going on in the designers brains... New whales could just use the shotgun approach to hit 7 classics per $100 on CP alone, which if repeated would do nicely for PvP... You're right about missing pve, but I thought of PvP to really be the domain of whales.New non whales would be roster slot starved for so long that 3600 HP would be a nearly offensive price to waste on a single cover...The only thing that's certain is they have no fear of taking a dump on the players, likely inconceivable to them that any player would have the audacity to stop playing their game.
tfcrazy1980 said: If you really wanna see where direction is going, check the other 2 forums....have yourself a good laugh
MissChinch said: @animaniactoo The best possible interpretation then involves a critical lack of foresight regarding this store they spent substantial time piloting.If they were the least bit concerned about the reaction to this it would have come with a better explaination. Either that or perhaps they are so out of touch that they didn't think it would be poorly received.Clearly none of the tantrums the forumites have had made much of a difference to D3/Demi, so I don't see why they would care about taking a dump on em, it hasn't been a problem yet and they haven't exactly slow rolled the dumps If it were a matter of competing priorities and stakeholders being different from users it doesn't preclude decent PR and tact... We don't get it, either because we're not worth the time or because they're so out of touch as to not know if this is a positive or negative change for the users...(...there's a whole buttload of whitespace here in my reply on my phone... Formatting could be just plain stupid, apologies in advance)
MissChinch said:I don't think it's a money grab, it's more a move to preserve an exploitable scarcity of retired 4* covers. Covering them with 3600HP is somewhere between $25-$50. Covering them with CP is $100 with optimal buy clubs, around $1800 without buy clubs. Seems like someone didn't want to sell that scarcity away at ~$30 a pop as quickly as they were.