Question for those of you who don't have Cyclops:

loroku

raisinbman wrote:

Enemy of the State question:

My guildies keep saying they can't score well in this event because they "don't have cyclops".

They are right.

Essential characters are just that: essential. And when they specifically offer one of the most-coveted covers in the game (Hood blue) right after a fierce battle for a new character that a lot of people wanted, it's even harder. So yeah, it is completely reasonable to think that without some massive grinding or crazy luck with your slice/bracket timing it will be nearly impossible to get a 15% placement without the essential.

Unknown

loroku wrote:

raisinbman wrote:

Enemy of the State question:

My guildies keep saying they can't score well in this event because they "don't have cyclops".

They are right.

Essential characters are just that: essential. And when they specifically offer one of the most-coveted covers in the game (Hood blue) right after a fierce battle for a new character that a lot of people wanted, it's even harder. So yeah, it is completely reasonable to think that without some massive grinding or crazy luck with your slice/bracket timing it will be nearly impossible to get a 15% placement without the essential.

I'm guessing you didn't actually read this thread.

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ANYWAY: Thanks for all the testimonials. I'm constantly linking this stuff to my guild's facebook. Hopefully they can take the message to heart to not give up even though they're at a disadvantage.

TxMoose

i think some of you guys were in some weaker brackets. i was in a slice 1 bracket and i have cyc, did 2-3+ clears per sub and ended up 104 (ended with ~121,000 pts). i don't know how you do 1-2 clears and make 80th? wish i could pull one of those brackets once in a while. been a while since i had one of those.

ynglink

raisinbman wrote:

ANYWAY: Thanks for all the testimonials. I'm constantly linking this stuff to my guild's facebook. Hopefully they can take the message to heart to not give up even though they're at a disadvantage.

I do this too for all the tips and new character updates. Since a lot of the people in my group aren't familiar yet with how the PvE Essential Char rotation is (for the most part) I like to inform them of who they'll need and who they should keep on for future references as well. Been updating daily due to the DDQ. Having to tag everyone who has the characters so they don't miss out on accident XD

Unknown

TxMoose wrote:

i think some of you guys were in some weaker brackets. i was in a slice 1 bracket and i have cyc, did 2-3+ clears per sub and ended up 104 (ended with ~121,000 pts). i don't know how you do 1-2 clears and make 80th? wish i could pull one of those brackets once in a while. been a while since i had one of those.

You could be in a 'veteran' bracket(whatever that means).

Roswulf

raisinbman wrote:

TxMoose wrote:

i think some of you guys were in some weaker brackets. i was in a slice 1 bracket and i have cyc, did 2-3+ clears per sub and ended up 104 (ended with ~121,000 pts). i don't know how you do 1-2 clears and make 80th? wish i could pull one of those brackets once in a while. been a while since i had one of those.

You could be in a 'veteran' bracket(whatever that means).

I've also found that late-starting brackets tend to be soft and can be VERY weak. I joined Enemy of the State with two days to go hoping for a fresh bracket, but instead got a competition set that already had more than 800 players. Through the power of Cyclops- and only doing essentials and relatively easy non-essential nodes- I STILL managed to not only hit the Progression easily but even made it into top 150 with a mere 60K.

Unknown

TxMoose wrote:

i think some of you guys were in some weaker brackets. i was in a slice 1 bracket and i have cyc, did 2-3+ clears per sub and ended up 104 (ended with ~121,000 pts). i don't know how you do 1-2 clears and make 80th? wish i could pull one of those brackets once in a while. been a while since i had one of those.

I didn't have Cyclops, but got him on about the third day. I ended up with 97k points and finished in 28th in my bracket. 10th was only 126k. Considering I'm trapped in 2* land, getting two Hood covers (including my first blue) was a bit of a coup. I'm grateful, even if my skill was mostly luck.

loroku

raisinbman wrote:

I'm guessing you didn't actually read this thread.

I did, and the advice given was wrong, hence my post. You're welcome.

Unknown

Honestly, I think the survival nodes make the biggest difference in the ratio of essential to non-essential points. On day 2 there were 2, so the points just racked up, and progression 3* is pretty low since they switched to 8 hour refreshes. I don't think the ratio is quite the same with all other pvp events, as I usually have to wait til the end of the 3rd day or 2nd pass in the 4th to get progession without essential otherwise.

ynglink

loroku wrote:

I did, and the advice given was wrong, hence my post. You're welcome.

I disagree. Sure you won't be placing top 50 without the Essential, but he said that you couldn't score well. That doesn't mean placing in the top X vs. say getting the progression reward or being able to get top 150. You can get top 150 easily without the required character from the beginning.

Unknown

ynglink wrote:

loroku wrote:

I did, and the advice given was wrong, hence my post. You're welcome.

I disagree. Sure you won't be placing top 50 without the Essential, but he said that you couldn't score well. That doesn't mean placing in the top X vs. say getting the progression reward or being able to get top 150. You can get top 150 easily without the required character from the beginning.

And actually, I got 28th and started without Cyclops. I didn't spend eternity on it either - I'm gainfully employed and don't have time during the workday to log in. I was in a weak bracket, but I scored fine, got Cyclops relatively early and got a good amount of points in the final two days. Two covers and started without the featured character. It was doable.